Dead Reckoning – Open Thread #2

The other thread is getting unmanageable, so let’s start again.

We also have a spoilery discussion thread running in the forum – feel free to post wherever suits you best.

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552 comments to Dead Reckoning – Open Thread #2

  • Krtmd

    Gracias SVB. :-)
    So I posed this question on the forum, but I’m curious what u think?
    We know what Eric would gain from a union with the QOK, if he wanted it. What does she gain from a union with Eric?
    His own telepath?
    Is this what Freyda wants?

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    SVB Reply:

    Well if Freyda’s got her eye on Louisiana…which Eric seems to think she does – having him on her team certainly helps her cause. Far better he be aligned with her, than with Felipe and against her.

    I don’t know if she’d be after Sookie, primarily. Though I guess she’d sweeten the deal?

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    Krtmd Reply:

    I’m just thinking, if he marries OK, he leaves LA right? What does she gain politically from a union with Eric?

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    SVB Reply:

    Well it’s not so much about what she “gains”…as it is about turning a potential threat into an asset. Eric is the strongest sheriff and he’s already survived one takeover. Now hes killed the regent too.

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    Serena Reply:

    My guess is weakening Felipe, with her eye eventually on Louisiana.

    Eric is a powerful vampire, respected all over the place and taking away such a key chip… that would be a big blow to FDC even though Eric is only a sheriff – in title Eric is the second most powerful vampire in the state. But instead of reacting to it, Felipe is letting Eric rot in the situation, could be because he’s *merely* a sheriff, but also that Felipe might not want to actively move against Freyda at this point but doesn’t want to help her either, perhaps he’s thinking that sometimes the best solution to a problem is to wait it out… which he seemed to do with Victor vs. Eric.

    Another thing – Freyda has presumably a lot of information on the Viking. I’m pretty convinced Felica was working for Freyfrey, and Felicia had been spying on Eric since Dead as a Doornail and up until the end of Dead in the Family. She knew more than just the fact Sookie was dating a telepath… In fact her first priority was to scope out Sookie, surely Felicia would have quit the scene if sticking around collecting other information wasn’t important. So I wonder what she did know? Perhaps she witnessed Niall’s side business with Eric? That Eric was personally involved in the Fae war? She likely knew the unrest that Eric had with his new masters as well as his maker. .. there’s gotta be more that I just can’t think of at the mo’. LOL.

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    heart's desire Reply:

    Ah, thanks guys. I’ve been trying to figure out what Freyda would gain & this all makes sense. This is the very reason why I think FDC would be nuts to let Eric go. He’s also better off aligned with Eric than giving Eric to Freyda, which would strengthening her & weaken him. Having a pissed off Eric in a forced marriage to Freyda who is already eyeing his kingdom, doesn’t make any sense to me. How long does he think Freyda would be placated once she has Eric? Unless she’d have to make a deal, like a written agreement that she wouldn’t go after his territories.

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    Lydia Reply:

    Couple of thoughts….wondering if FDC even knows that Eric’s “dad” made a deal with Oklahoma? Nothing was mentioned to that fact at Vampire Kiss by Victor…I am certain if he was so low to put Miriam on display to hurt Pam and in effect hurt Eric, why would Victor not use that opportunity to tell Sookie that Eric was going to be taking another wife….again to hurt Sookie and in turn, hurt Eric. Also, I was thinking about Mr. C and giving Sookie her “gift”. I really have to wonder if anyone has her best interests at heart any longer…since he is a telepath and was supposed to be checking on her during her life, why on earth did Mr. C let Sookie go to Rhodes to act as the Queen’s Telepath??? Also, who wrote up the agreement with Eric’s dad and the Queen of Oklahoma???? I remember when Russell got married the agreement was 30 some pages long…wouldn’t you need a LAWYER to construct such a document…just wondering if Mr. C is the master of the agreement between Eric’s dad and Oklahoma….just a lot of wondering…2nd reading has already begun…I truly enjoyed this book. Ms. Harris has constructed a compelling base to close-out the SVM series.

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    Lydia Reply:

    ***Correction**** Please change FDC with Victor in my post…got stuck on FDC knowing about the agreement between Eric’s dad and Oklahoma and I just kept on with his initials..

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    SVB Reply:

    Done. I thought that was what you meant but I wasn’t sure! :lol:

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    C.K. Reply:

    Practically, everyone one seems suspious in this book. Sookie has very few people she can trust. I trust Pam and Eric. Heck Jason and Tara too but everyone else I don’t know.

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    Heather Reply:

    First, let me say this, I am an Eric lover! I think he is awesome and who I want to see with Sookie. I don’t know if Sookie can trust him or he can trust her. I think he always has her best interest in mind and I think she has his best interest in mind, but they don’t communicate. They don’t talk and they are too worried about what the other with think about what they say. They need to be honest, because without honesty there is no relationship. If they can be themselves around each other … not just sexually or sharing the same sense of humor, but really be honest … they have a shot at a real relationship.

    I am still irritated that Eric didn’t tell Sookie about this marriage, but he was too afraid of what she’d think. Pam is honest with Sookie. She is bluntly honest about everything with her and realizes that if she is a friend to her, she is a friend all the way! Eric stated to Sookie something about it being hard to talk to a human after 1000 years. He finds it hard, because every fiber of him says not to. While Sookie doesn’t share either.

    Notice how Pam asked him what kind of husband he is. She sees it all falling apart and deep down, I think it hurts her! She sees Sookie living with fairies that are male. Now Sam tells us that the Fae really don’t give a damn about incest! We have to remember Sookie is part Fae and she is a female! There are few females left! They have already admitted that she is becoming more Fae by being around them, like washing reds with whites. I think that there is motive there. How many times has a fairy pretended to be Eric? We already know that they don’t use condoms, because she can’t get pregnant from a vampire. Just a thought. Dermot already let on to the family secret that his twin was acting as her grandfather. We’ll have to see how it all plays out.

    Finally, Sookie needs to learn to trust herself. She needs to quit having so much faith in her supe friends. Every time she does she gets a major let down! She can’t trust the humans either, but at least she knows this.

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    *C.K. Reply:

    Heather,

    I agree communication is a problem for them. They need couples therapy.LOL. It is like they are always waiting for the other person’s reaction before they open up. I am surprised that Eric does not seem more concerned with the fairies living with her (aside from the lemon juice by her bed). I thought Eric would say more about it. He knows they are deceptive. I hope they never impersonated Eric or did anything to her when they were in her bed (beyond gross). She would not remember if they did. I think that I am more worried about these darn faries than the other stuff.

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    Dee Reply:

    I think, Eric, knows how independent Sookie is and she wouldn’t appreciate him telling her they can’t live with her. Same with him hearing she is going shopping with Sam. He did not say a word, it was Pam who said something about it. I actually do like that he does not try to control her. But yeah, I hope that he at least makes sure that Sookie not trust them 100% and to watch her back.

    I also worry about the fae more than anything.

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    WaitingForSunday Reply:

    I am also worried about the fairies being able to impersonate others. I don’t think any fairy has impersonated Eric and slept with Sookie (at this point). They’ve only had sex once since the blood bond was broken. I think the BB was the only thing the fairies could not duplicate, but now that obstacle is out of the way. That weird shit with Alcide in Sookie’s bed? Highly suspicious fairy tricks, maybe.

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    Heather Reply:

    Crap! I didn’t even think about that with Alcide! What if that was not Alcide and was a fairy or elf or God only knows what else in her bed?! Surely, Claude is not that stupid!

    *C.K. Reply:

    P.S. Eric and Sookie have only officially been together for 5 months or so and the first years supposed to be the hardest. However, they have known each other for 2 or 2 1/2 years. Also, Pam does seem more concerned about the fairies living with Sookie.

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    Holby Reply:

    Eric didn’t have to worry about the fae impersonating him because Sookie could easily identify Eric via the Blood Bond. I am probably in the minority here, but I just want to slap Sookie for breaking the bond or for not immediately trying to recreate it! How many times has she been saved from a certain death or torture BECAUSE of their shared blood. And now she is relying solely on her human senses to identify the people she interacts with, which is far from adequate when dealing with the fae. No crap the marriage was the least of her protection…and thank you Amelia for making sure the entire fae community knew it was broken immediately.
    As for an Alcide impersonator…that makes sense. How could Amelia and Bob have gotten into Hair of the Dog. It has a stay-away spell and a shifter-only policy. Someone is not telling the truth about how everyone was informed.

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    C.K. Reply:

    Hobly,

    One hand I am glad that the blood bond is broken so that Sookie can quit blaming her feelings for Eric on the bond. I am sure there are probably going to be consequences for breaking that bond. Eric can’t come to her rescue anymore. Maybe the fact that she is feeling more fae will come in handy strength wise. We will have to wait and see if there are more cons than pros to breaking it which could be the case. If Amelia told everyone about the blood bond she probably told people that Sookie is part fae too. That seemed so out of character for Alcide but he has changed since he became packmaster so it could have been the real Alcide. Janalyn must really have him wrapped around her finger. I wonder what Pam has to say about Sookie breaking the blood bond?

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    Scarlett Silvermoon Reply:

    I Have not yet read this book (only chapter 1, and thats cause its online, i read so much that i have been grounded from reading and books) but i do understand most of what you guys are saying, Throughout this WHOLE series Sookie has ticked me off not only at her ignorance but also at her stupidity. But she does prove to be a very strong and curagous person. Bill ticks me off, and yes i am an eric lover, but there are times where he to also ticks me off.But mostly i am ticked off at Sookie, She often talks about peace when in reality she is just as manipulative and sadistic as eric and the other vampires. Why dont they just make her a vampire! she’d be excellent!!!She just ticks me off!!!

    SacredmOOn Reply:

    I agree the only ones I would trust if I was Sookie is Eric, Pam Tara and maybe Jason.

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    Serena Reply:

    I think Mr. Cataliades allowed her to live her life and didn’t interfere with it as much as he could, so long as she wasn’t under a direct threat like Sandra Pelt, but I really think he has to be trustworthy in regards to Sookie, why else didn’t he kill her for the cluviel dor? He certainly could have used it with the gray things after him… hmm.

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    Skarlove Reply:

    I think Mr. C is pretty honorable when it comes to Sookie. She used to think he liked her just because she saved him at Rhodes, but I love that we know how much further back the story goes. I wonder what the Hooligans “riff raff” is after, and how he plays into their goal? Do they think he can possibly widen the portal?

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    WaitingForSunday Reply:

    I’m not sure what Mr. Cataliades’ goals are. He does seem to be looking out for Sookie, but to what end? Is he supportive of her being part of the vampiric world, or is he more on the side of the fae? Did he make promises to Fintan?

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    Sherry Reply:

    I think this was one of those things that CH thought of later on in the series since we really don’t see Mr. C till a few books in. I think here’s one of those inconsistencies where it would have been really prudent for Mr. C to make this revelation a little earlier or at least speak to her more on what life is like being a telepath. Maybe not so much to reveal himself as one but hints about life or coping with it and controlling it. He is totally ambivalent to how shit her life’s been with telepathy.

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    Holby Reply:

    And why did Mr. C say to Sookie in ATD “I wasn’t reading your mind.” when she was looking at the caskets…clearly he lied to her…and has been hiding his own telepathy. Very shady.

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    SacredmOOn Reply:

    I think FDC confirmed that Victor wanted him and Eric dead at Merlotte’s with the setup with Sigebert. Two for one thing that would be Victor to me to a T. Both his rivals gone at once, and of course Victor wasn’t there with the King? That is where the King started to lay low and give Victor regent title and left it to Eric to kill Victor.

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    SVB Reply:

    I’m not sure it played out that way – CH has said that Sigebert acted alone in Book 8 and his attack was on the new King, and Eric who he would have obviously viewed as a traitor to Sophie Anne.

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    LLE Reply:

    CH will not give the story away. Readers ask question but when CH gives answer it might not be the correct answer. The only way we are going to know is reading the books.

    I don’t think Segbert was smart enough to find Eric and Felipe together. Someone could had given information to Segbert. Who gains if Felips and Eric dead? I can see Victor being responsible for it. We never know because Victor is dead.

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    SacredmOOn Reply:

    Didn’t Victor confirm that Sigebert was dead though or not? I thought that he did know he was still alive.

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    LLE Reply:

    They did confirm him dead but Eric and Felipe found him alive. Someone was lying.

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    SacredmOOn Reply:

    That’s what I thought so I still think Victor was apart of it somehow.

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    Holby Reply:

    No one actually confirmed Sigebert dead…Victor said, “…Sigebert seems to have perished with SophieAnne.” That’s plausible deniability

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    IATM Reply:

    Thankx you guys.. because i was wondering why Oklahoma wants Eric so bad..& i was also pondering over what Eric looses & gains in a union with Oklahoma ( pretty much weighing the pros & cons)..

    from what i have read between you all’s post it makes more sense to me..

    Thanks a million :-)

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    Joanne Reply:

    Eric will be stronger than ever once he resumes his role as sherrif without Victor.He may obsorbe all of Victors holdings, Vampire Kiss and Vics Roadhouse to name a few. He was strong before all these issues surfaced. My Question is what will Sookie use her gift on?

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    Hootiecat1 Reply:

    It’s been 5 days now since DR was released & I’ve read it 6 times. I’ve been all over the map…as much as I don’t want to say some of this, after thinking it over…here goes.

    The question of why QoO would want Eric has been brought up. OF COURSE IT’S SO QoO CAN HAVE SOOKIE…

    But a Sookie without a blood bond to Eric is worthless. (no control-if he ever had any) Sookie will not follow Eric if he goes to another woman. Queen, or fangbanger. Less we all forget, bill -IS- history because of another woman, Lorena, all bill’s other women reinforced Sookie’s decision.
    Lots of spies at Rhodes -DITF and of course Felicia, Fangtasia’s bar tender. Sookie did a lot of vamp business for QSA in Rhodes, as well as questioned the Ancient Pythoness, rescued QSA, Eric, Pam, Mr.C saved a lot of lives, both Vamp and human. Russell & Stan already had their own history with Sookie. The rumors at Rhodes were that Sookie was fucking, Eric, QSA, Andre & Mr.C. Sookie’s actions in Rhodes went through the Vamp, Sup & Fae world like wildfire even Niall had heard about it, so did the FBI. As Claudine said Sookie was now firmly set in the Vampire world -ATD.

    I think it was QoO who approach Appius, of course that prompted Appius’s visit to Eric and he was surprised at “she’s rare Eric, where did you find her” as well as Alexei’s problem. He probably up’d his fee after meeting Sookie…

    All Eric has to offer QoO is SOOKIE. He’s not a King – thanks to Andre the only thing Eric is – IS SOOKIE’S HADLER…
    QoO thinks she’s getting what QSA had, except this time QoO will eliminate Eric’s marriage, by marrying him herself. Thereby eliminating Eric’s (knife) trick on FDC. As a consort Eric has nothing. Eric confessed to Sookie the Queen was calling him every week offering him more and more of her kingdom. (political position) He’d have to be stupid not to know the reason he’s being made the offer. IMO the only reason FDC let Eric live is because of Sookie. (spies again) Then stupid bill spills the beans in front of Victor about dyeing for her – which Eric’s big mouth reinforced. FDC found out about the BB when Seabert attacked them at Merlotte’s. (Setup) Sam and Quinn I’m sure had a part in that along with Victor maybe even FDC? Assessing the bond? It’s common knowledge Sookie is fae.

    Eric’s ass is on the line the same as Sookie’s – the only difference is he’s a vamp and a lot stronger than her…
    FDC maybe can get Eric out of the marriage to QoO, but not without demands – SOOKIE?

    I have a sick feeling that Eric has been working his own agenda with Sookie for a long time? Then fell in love with her the same way bill did. (lots of parallels)

    I have some real issues with Eric taking a call from QoO to continue negotiations, or any discussions of any kind while he was in his wife’s (Sookie’s) house. HOW LOW AND DISRESPECTFUL IS THAT TO SOMEONE HE SAYS HE LOVES. I can see how Pam was upset for Sookie – her friend. No wonder Pam said, “You need to be looking out for yourself Sookie.” I don’t think Pam could have said that if she believed Eric would do anything but improve his political power at Sookie’s expense.

    When Eric excused himself on his cell to QoO and said, “Excuse me, There’s a crisis, “I’ll return your call later.” (got a little problem with my McPeople/cow/human/wife, but I’ll get back to you)
    If I were his wife that would rip me apart. (No wonder when Sookie saw the severed heads, she had to go vomit -nothing but intrigue, violence and heartbreak)
    ERIC LOST ME THERE, does he think Sookie doesn’t have ears? That she didn’t heard him just say, he’s going to call the queen back?
    Sookie is not the only one who doesn’t take the marriage seriously…neither does Eric, he sees her as human. “Like cows, but cute too.”
    Maybe the bite was Eric’s irritation of his little cow having an opinion and doubts, no longer enthralled by his BB that all this is okay? Shocked and ashamed of her own part of the violence? Maybe shocked at how much the BB has influenced her own road to violence?

    I know most of you are going to say yeah, but they love each other…sometimes love is not enough.
    I think Eric just proved what Clovache the Britlingen said to Sookie. “While a vampire, by definition, is twisty and deceptive.”
    Eric is vampire same as bill.

    I could understand Sookie’s indifference on page 325 the last page.

    “I wondered if Eric had talked to Felipe yet about the disappearance of the Regent of Louisiana. I wondered if Eric had written to the Queen of Oklahoma. Maybe the phone would ring when darkness fell. Maybe it wouldn’t. I couldn’t decide which I wanted.”

    I FEEL NUMB WITH SOOKIE…LOL, I WAS IN LOVE WITH THE VIKING TOO. DAMN!!!!
    Shit! Maybe Sook will use the cluviel dor to go to the dimension of Britlingen and become a kick-ass body guard and get to wear that cool body armor.
    None of the sups are good enough for her. Not SAM, not BILL, not FAIRIES, maybe not even ERIC.

    I’ve read DR now 5 times and it’s sinking in…
    HOLYFUCKINGSHIT THIS BREAKUP IS REAL

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    C.K. Reply:

    The Freyda thing makes sense, she could want Sookie as a part of the deal. I think Eric is valuable to Felip now that Victor is gone.

    Eric can’t just ignore the Queens phone calls. CH like to torture Eric/Sookie fans so sometimes I do worry that some major bombshell will come out about Eric. The Niall situation could come bacl to bite Eric and Sookie in the a**. I think CH said that there won’t be some Eric revelation but if there was a bombshell Ch would not admit that there is going to be one. I don’t think Eric would betray Sookie because loyalty is important to him. I think one of the worst things to him would be losing his reputation.

    I think Sookie wanted a breather. She had the week or two from Hell and she just wanted to relax and forget her problems for a few minutes. Plus she did not want to get a lecture from Eric (about her hypocracy). Then. she would have to explain the whole Sandra killing. She would probably leave out the part about Mr. C. Then, Eric would have to explain everything that went down after she left.

    Eric and Sookie are alot a like. Eric does get upset that Sookie looks down upon him even though he doesn’t always show it. I do think that Eric is good enough for Sookie. There are two people in that relationship and they are both guilty. He kept the marriage a secret and bottom line he should have told her because it effects her life too. Sookie has every right to be upset about that. However, Sookie should have told him about the blood bond because Eric could have been harmed if something went wrong. Amelia opened her big mouth so half the supe community probably knows the bond was severed. There is equal blame to go around.

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    Sherry Reply:

    This was an excellent summary and really surmised a lot of the thoughts I had about the book.

    I don’t really believe though that they will by the end break up. I think both of them are a little fed up with the other after going through so much. Eric really does keep a lot of things from Sookie. People like to quote a lot from DAG that he might not tell her everything but what he does tell her is true but really, what he tells her is probably about 10% of what he actually knows. I consider that in many ways lying by omission. It’s not a lie – but it’s not the truth either.

    I think CH has invested too much to break them up altogether. But like any couple, there will be times when they just need space from each other. This right now, I think, is one of those times. CH purposely left it up in the air for the intrigue but I feel, it creates breathing room for them that they so desperately need.

    And if readers think that “The talk tomorrow” is going to appear on the page…that’s just not going to happen. Didn’t happen after FDTW, ain’t gonna happen in Book 12.

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    C.K. Reply:

    I agree Sherry that I don’t think “the talk that night” will be in the next book. We all know the books skip a couple weeks or months. The next book could be two weeks later. Sookie might just briefly reference it. As much as I would like to hear the “major talk” that they need to have that might not happen either. It would take an entire book to write that talk. Maybe CH will give us a little snippet of “lay all the sh** on the table talk”. Really, we know the gist of what they would say and possibly admit.

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    LLE Reply:

    1. It could skip that Eric went through with the wedding and Sookie is no longer in love with Eric and starting to date someone else. Eric is no longer in the books.

    2. Eric, Sookie, and Pam find a way out of getting Eric out from the wedding.

    3. Bill becomes Eric’s boss and blackmail Sookie going back to him so Eric will not marry the Queen.

    4. Felipe agrees to stop the wedding on one condition and that is that Eric gives Sookie to him.

    5. The Queen tells Eric she get him off the hook for killing the Victor is that they get marry.

    6. Eric’s child land up being Eric’s boss and she gets him off the hook of marry the Queen.

    7. The Queen visit Sookie and Sookie kills her in self defense.

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  • LLE

    The same reason Sookie wants Eric.

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  • Eric is hot

    I was thinking Sookie was wearing the CD when Eric bit her. Could it have influenced his ability to stop. She has been feeling more fae, had a fae object on her person and this is the first time in a while she has offered him blood. SVB what do you think? I don’t the fact that she had something on her that is definitely fae can be ignored.

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    SVB Reply:

    On my phone so must be brief – I don’t think Eric *couldn’t* stop, I think he chose not to stop. He was angry and he was punishing her.

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    Mony Reply:

    ITA with that SVB. I took it in the same way and even Sookie was thinking about the punishment too ;)

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    HelenaHandbasket Reply:

    I think Eric gave Sookie what she wanted. She did not want to feel good in that moment. She said it, and he knows her well enough to understand that. I’m not sure that I think she could have mentally forgiven herself for participating in the celebration even just by feeling good from Eric’s bite. I’m not making it OK for Eric, I just don’t think he was really angry in that moment and I don’t think he had some desire to hurt her.
    Sookie did not want to rejoice – she did not want to feel good in that moment – it would have been a false feeling. A faked bitegasm(haha) if you will. Immanuel and Mustapha felt bliss – Sookie wasn’t into feeling that in that moment.imo

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    IATM Reply:

    the bite scene IMO was Eric upset at Sookie’s reaction.. i mean he verbally called her a Hyprocrite & took her up on her offer & fed.. he didnt stop because he didnt want to..

    over the long course of the books Eric has shown much restraint IMO regarding Sookie.. so i dont even consider that a loose of control.. he did it on purpose.. & Sookie knows that.. she didnt need the BB to realize what Eric was doing..

    is that right or wrong?? i think if people judge the circumstance on a human level it could be wrong.. it didnt drain her though.. i sure would like to have Eric’s p.o.v. in that scene instead of Sookie’s actually.. i mean from the time he started feeding really to the time that Sookie started complaining about he didnt stop wasent even 1 whole min..LOL !! i mean are we talking seconds by second here?? we know Eric only needs a few drops to heal.. so of course he did that on purpose.. he only has his Fangs to work with vs. a human man i guess could use words or something else when they are mad at their spouse..

    i simply rolled my eye’s on the scene in DR to be honest anyway.. Sookie took it as a punishment..

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    C.K. Reply:

    I also feel he did it on purpose. I think Sookie even mentioned that Eric knew to stop but kept feeding. Sookie pulled on Eric’s ear then he stopped. He was being a jerk though. I do think that he might have purposely made the bite hurt more. He was probably mad at her and he needed blood. Sookie can be a hypocrite that is something she needs to work on. Sookie killed Lorena and was okay about it but when it came to Debbie she felt guilty. However, she does judge Eric and wanted him to feel bad about Chicos mom etc… It is a work in progress. I guess the “turning point” Sookie mentioned is either to accept it all or leave. If she loves Eric she needs lower her expectations a bit. They have a lot to work out in their relationship. Miscommunication is a major one.

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    HelenaHandbasket Reply:

    I agree that he did it on purpose,it wasnt nice, but I dont think Sookie wanted to feel good about ‘anything’ at that point and in that moment.Which is why I think she thought it was merited and justified. But hurting someone you love is never justifiable.

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    HelenaHandbasket Reply:

    He just shouldnt have bit her at all. She should have just left at that point.

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    heart's desire Reply:

    Yeah, not good to bite during a spat. LOL It was a jerk move, but I understood where they were both coming from at that moment. I think it hurt her feelings more than it hurt her physically.

    I agree Helena, Sookie was SO miserable & was hating herself & everyone around her. If Eric had made it pleasurable she would have been disgusted & pissed by that too. There was really no winning with her at that moment. I also agree, he shouldn’t have bit her at all – even though I get why he did.

    Sookie’s definitely at a turning point. I like that she’s being honest with herself. She KNEW she was being a hypocrite at that moment, just as she knew she was fooling herself when she tried to convince herself that was the “real” her at the baby shower.

    Learning all this about Gran, her previous morality compass, and all the fairy involvement is a lot to deal with as well. Finding out her mind reading is supernatural “gift” must be a trip. She’s always been in the supe world & always will be. Sookie accepting & making peace with all this is much bigger than just her relationship with Eric.

    I think she’s realizing she never stood a chance at having a “normal” life & she never really had one to begin with. As Mr C said, it was just a matter of time. I also think she feels she *should* want a normal life, even though she feels more at home in the supe world & is dealing with that as well. She’s struggling with A LOT. No wonder she’s a mess. LOL

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    *C.K. Reply:

    Eric did need blood though and all the other vampires were injured and there were not many humans there. I guess he could have had TrueBlood. Hey Sookie offered so he wasn’t going to refuse but yah it would have been better if he did not bite her, oh well. Trying to kiss her with his bloody mouth twice was gross though. I don’t blame her for pulling away.

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    Holby Reply:

    EXCEPT that she accepted his bloody mouth kiss in Dallas right after the FoTS attack at Stan’s nest. Hypocrite once again. Sookie’s moral compass has some magnetic flaws. And she makes judgements based on human v. vampire. She knows this and I think we will see her try to find the middle ground, but as of right now, she does NOT value an undead life as much as a human one.

    IATM Reply:

    Right Sookie complains about everything Eric does in the books..

    if he would have made it a big deal about that as well.. she has done that in the past books as well..

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    Duckbutt Reply:

    and..I think that’s what kind of irked Eric after the carnage at Fangtasia. He called Sookie’s BS (“Hypocrite”) because it was her plan they used…did she not know that blood would be shed? Come on, really??? I think the difference between this battle and other bloody battles, was that it was her plan that in effect, caused it –and that’s why she felt bad –she was more detached from the other battles because it ‘wasn’t her fault” i.e., her plan…

    Pat

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    Heather Reply:

    Bingo, Duckbutt, you are spot on!!!

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    Skarlove Reply:

    RE: the bite…..it reminds me of when a little kid stands at the door w/a backpack and says “I hate you! I’m running away.” The parents say something along the lines of “don’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out”, and then proceed to go pick up the kid before they even make it to the edge of the driveway.

    This was a BIG growing up moment for Sookie. Her initial idea sounded different in her head than when she saw the bloody results sprawled around her. By offering Eric blood (which was the right thing to do in that situation, IMO) Sookie was falling off the fence that she’s teetered on for many books now. She’s wanted Victor dead for a while, and now that the deed is done, she’s not sure what type of being that makes her. Notice I see “being” rather than human……I think she’s coming to grips with the fact that she’s not. It’s scary, and she knows she doesn’t fit into the “small-town bridal shower jello mold” world!

    That theme of either owning up to what you are or wallowing in the anger of it if you can’t was all over the place here, and I find the crying over spilled milk analogy appropriate in this situation……perhaps even funner because we HAD a jug of spilled milk, lol :)

    When Eric bit her harder than necessary, and for a longer time, he was merely reflecting back her own feelings at that moment. To me, this is fascinating and telling – even without the BB, their feelings are still connected. She didn’t want to feel good, so he didn’t let her. I don’t have any issues with Eric biting Sookie hard here, nor was there ever any question of control.

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    Skarlove Reply:

    Woops….”say” rather than “see” and “funnier”.

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    *C.K. Reply:

    I like your analogy Skarlove. I guess no matter what she was not going to feel better in that situation.

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    WaitingForSunday Reply:

    ITA Skarlove. I wonder if Sookie wanted to be “punished” for her role in the bloodshed. She didn’t feel as horrified as she thought she should have, and would have in the past.

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    Janofarc Reply:

    Sookie needs to learn to compromise with Eric but he also needs to compromise with Sookie. He calls her a hypocrite because her human sensibilities and the morals that she’s lived by for 20 odd years kicked in. Yes, she needs to understand that she is a part human in a vampires world but Eric needs to understand that she is part-human too and needs him to live in her world a little. They love each other but sometimes love isn’t enough.

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    IATM Reply:

    i think Eric has put up with alot regarding Sookie’s “human” morals.. especially when they were under the BB.. i think he just was fed up with her at this point & so he did what he did.. i mean 11 books of Sookie wishy washy judgemental back & forth ideas & relationships & emotions..

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    *C.K. Reply:

    It seems like vamps have more moral than some of the other supes. At least Eric values loyalty.

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    VikingsJoy Reply:

    I just reread that whole passage after the Victor assasination and here is my take on it:
    Victor was making life miserable for Eric, Pam, and Sookie and they all hated him and wanted him dead. SOOKIE especially! Victor was trying to find a way to kill them all (had already tried to kill the only two people Eric loves) and simultaneously destroy their way of life by opening up those two bars.
    Eric, Sookie, and Pam have been planning this and wanting Victor’s death for awhile and after the deed is finally done, what does Sookie do….she goes all righteous on them.
    “I looked at my lover, my husband, and he looked like a stranger to me. He and Pam stood facing each other, holding hands and beaming through the blood. Then they simply collapsed into each other, and Pam began laughing in a breathless way. “It’s done!” she said. “It’s done. We’re free.”
    A stranger….really?! Eric and Pam were celebrating in that moment because they were SO freakin relieved to be done with that dictator! Maybe I come off as cruel, but I don’t blame them one bit for being happy.

    Then the next part: “Eric came over to me beaming. I had never been more undilutedly glad our bond was broken, because I didn’t want to feel what he was feeling, even a little bit. He put his arms around me, kissed me with enthusiasm, and all I could smell was blood. After a minute he drew back, frowning. “Sookie?” he said. “Your’re not rejoicing?”
    I think here is where Eric is just plan ole’ tired of her shit…”His eyes narrowed He didn’t like my raining on his parade. Understandable.”
    Your damn right Sookie, it is understandable and I didn’t like her raining on his parade either.

    I think he bit her like that because he’s damned either way in her eyes. She has always held him to such a different standard in my opinion. I think this was his Rhett Butler moment of, “Frankly, my dear I don’t give a damn.” Thank goodness the series doesn’t end here with her crying on the stairs Scarlett O’hara style. I’m on the side believing it’s her that will have to go fight to win him back. She and Eric are very similar whether she wants to admit it or not. I think it’s very telling that at the end of the chapter she WAS relieved and fell right asleep without, “crying or praying or sitting in a corner with her eyes wide open the rest of the night.”

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    Sherry Reply:

    I’m sorry but I don’t see it as just that. It’s true that Sookie was instrumental in the planning of taking down Victor and his crew. But the fact is planning something and SEEING it are two different things. She even says that to Bill. Its kind of like the people who hold political office – they plan the wars but send other people to fight them. If they had to do the fighting themselves, there would be a whole lot more reservations.

    She sees Eric covered in blood, literally covered in blood. Thats his true vampiric nature, which she hasn’t actually seen much of lately. Sookie was taking stock of all the death that she was INSTRUMENTAL in causing. She wanted Victor dead yes, no doubt but I don’t think she took into consideration at all what the bloodshed of something like that would mean. THAT is something Bill called her right out on in the car later.

    Just because Eric doesn’t agree with what is technically a hypocritical viewpoint doesn’t mean he’s earned the right to give her the equivalent of a bitch slap to the face. She’s taking the bite and not complaining about it, in my view, because she feels in her way the responsibility of causing a whole lot of deaths and perhaps some of that pain she feels should be hers.

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    SVB Reply:

    I think he bit her like that because he’s damned either way in her eyes. She has always held him to such a different standard in my opinion. I think this was his Rhett Butler moment of, “Frankly, my dear I don’t give a damn.”

    THIS. This bite isn’t just a response to what was happening in the immediate moment – it had been coming for a while. Her constant chafing over the pledge (which she has now acknowledged was necessary and saved her ass), the breaking of the bond without thinking through the consequences (again to her own ass – not Eric’s), and then her judgy shit over Victor coming right on the back of it, he snapped. I get that; you can see in the last two books that his irritation with her over the marriage in particular, has been growing.

    Look at his reaction during the moving in together conversation – he got all snitty then too, because once again she was trying to completely minimise his efforts and the level of commitment he has to her. He also views her non committal response to his suggestion of being turned as yet another slap in the face.

    None of this excuses his lashing out, but I don’t get why it’s such a shock to people. There were hints in DITF that he was getting fed up but it was *really* obvious right through this one before we ever even got to this bite scene.

    And this is what I feel she means by the turning point comment – Eric is no longer willing to just sit back and cop whatever the hell she wants to dish up to him because she thinks that his age means he is incapable of being hurt by her behaviour. She understood in that moment that he was done indulging her indecisiveness and half-assed commitment, and he was making a stand for himself.

    He has proven his commitment over and over again and he’s drawing a line in the sand. Ball’s in your court now, Sookie.

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    glamored Reply:

    And this is what I feel she means by the turning point comment – Eric isn’t going to just sit back and cop whatever the hell she wants to dish up to him because she thinks that his age means he is incapable of being hurt by her behaviour. She understood that he was done indulging her indecision and half-assed commitment, and he was making a stand for himself.

    He has proven his commitment over and over again and he’s drawing a line in the sand.

    YES!! It’s not a turning point in terms of an ending, but of them being equal! He’s not taking anymore shit, and she’s gonna have to own her part of their life together. The sarcasm and irritation built this whole book, and the bite was just the culmination of his frustration.

    Dee Reply:

    Turning point in their relationship definitely does not mean an ending. If so then I think Sookie would’ve thought and this was the end of us or something along those lines. She said how they had turning points in their relationship and this was another one. Those other turning points kept them together obviously and with each book their relationship grew stronger. So if she just views this as another turning point, it means something to change the relationship not the thing that ends it.

    SVB Reply:

    Exactly – her comment that their relationship had been made up of turning points implied that she saw this as just another one.

    VikingsJoy Reply:

    Totally agree.

    dano328 Reply:

    It would have been completely out of character for Sookie to celebrate the victory, she never will. She is not a vampire but a part human that mourns the loss of some of her humanity. I love Sookie and this series is about her. She is going through experiences that none of us (or anyone) has dealt with. That said, she deserved a bit of punishment and i credit her for encouraging it to happen. It wasn’t forced on her. As for why she needed to be punished: one reason only — her hypocrisy. She wanted Victor dead like nothing else. And during that meeting at Colton’s trailer she actually said (paraphrasing) Eric I am tired of us talking about killing Victor. It needs to be done (end paraphrase). If I heard something like that, I would be pissed. She kinda called his manhood onto the carpet.

    As for the future of their relationship. She does have to decide. If she is willing to be a little vulnerable and show Eric that she doesn’t want him to leave, then he will do whatever it takes to stay with her. Will she fight to keep him? Only CH knows.

    VikingsJoy Reply:

    I didn’t expect Sookie to celebrate after the battle (even though earlier in the book she said something about dancing and being gleeful if a bank fell on Victor’s head,) but I also didn’t think she would look down upon Eric and Pam for being happy and relieved it was finally over. This isn’t her first rodeo when it comes to war, death, and dying…I just thought she’d be a little more..in her own words “understandable”.

    VampLilly Reply:

    This is a period in Sookie’s life in which she is considering all her alternatives. Eric is gentle with her, but he has his ruthless side of course. So, I think the bite was a challenge from Eric, and an in your face question: This is me too. Do you like? Do you want me?

    IATM Reply:

    I totaly agree SVB,

    Eric was fed up & he has deserved the right to be IMO.. he has proven his Love to her time & time agian & she still acts as though Eric wont put his life on the line for her.. **shake head**

    Sookie’s lop sided ethic’s is getting really old in the books IMO as well..

    Sookie is so much like Scarlett with the whole “i wont think about it today, i’ll think about it tomorrow”.. as if the problems that were going on yesterday wont be todays issues.. her constantly putting things off, not thinking things through with No regards to Eric or his feelings.. she has come across so selffish IMO throughout the books.. & everything he has done is for a bigger picture.. Eric has alot on his plate ( unlike Bill & Sookie who only have themselves to think about).. Eric has vamps under his purview, a wife, a progeny & himself to always think about..

    Killing Victor helped EVERYONE not just Sookie..& it just killed me in DR when Sookie made the statment at Victor’s Bar when Victor insulted her ” if Eric was going to die tonight, it wouldnt be for my honor” or some bull shit she said.. i was shaking my head.. because where was this statement in DUD when Billy Boy didnt try to kill Long Shadow for her honor ?? if i remember correctly Sookie was feeling pitty for Billy in that scene in DUD because he couldnt help her..

    personally i feel Sookie takes Eric for granted..

    Hootiecat1 Reply:

    SVB…I agree with your take on Eric.

    “This bite isn’t just a response to what was happening in the immediate moment – it had been coming for a while. Her constant chafing over the pledge (which she has now acknowledged was necessary and saved her ass), the breaking of the bond without thinking through the consequences (again to her own ass – not Eric’s), and then her judgy shit over Victor coming right on the back of it, he snapped. I get that; you can see in the last two books that his irritation with her over the marriage in particular, has been growing.”

    I do not question how much he loves and has been giving to Sookie, with not much compromise and no interest on her part to ask him for answers in return. (what BB means how their vampire marriage works) I disagree with bill’s crap advice for Sookie to Let Eric alone don’t ask him questions, to let Eric make up his own mind. ERIC’S MIND WAS MADE UP ALREADY. Eric was trying to get out of the marriage, even before he told Sookie about it. bill was playing Sookie one more time, mind F*** at her insecurities.

    One other thing occurred to me, when Eric bit her was he able to taste a difference in Sookie since Dermot had blown his breath into her? (Fae healing practice…when she wasn’t hurt?) Why did Eric just say “Tomorrow,” his eyes SEARCHING her face when he let her go? Other’s have questioned her having the cluviel dor on her person as Eric fed, but I think what Dermot did with his breath may be more significant. Was Eric also tasting a change in Sookie’s blood another reason that he took more than a sip? LMAO that Sookie saw the rage, resentment, and longing on bill’s face while Eric drank from Sookie. So glad Eric ignored the asshole.

    Vampire’s give blood to heal, Fae give their breath…Hmmm

    Also the two human kidnapers – I think they were sent by Claude.
    Sandra had already sent 4 thugs hyped on V when that failed she went to get Sookie herself – and poor Terry thumped her. I don’t see Victor dealing with low class humans – especially after he’d already lost two tuff vamps trying to get Sookie. (also he didn’t know the bond was broken)

    Claude knew the BB was broken — thank’s to witch/bitch Amelia. (I wouldn’t trust her wards and mentioned them in a previous blog) But Claude didn’t know that Dermot was still at Sookie’s house. C & D sniffing the porch, where Eric & Sookie had their happy moments? Maybe the fae can’t do anything to Sookie if she’s bonded to a vamp? I’m sure they couldn’t be-spell her while she’s in a BB with Eric.

    At first I didn’t put much thought into the threads saying the Fae want to use Sookie as a breeder, but now I’m going to give it some careful thought. Maybe “Gift Wrapped’ was Niall’s first attempt at developing a Royal Fae child that could pass telepathy on to the race.
    That withering comment of Claude’s seems too pertinent to a woman’s reproduction cycles for child bearing?

    Woo Hoo, what a great mystery…LOVE LOVE LOVE THIS BOOK.

    Ashley Reply:

    I agree 1000% with all of this SVB.

    SacredmOOn Reply:

    I agree Erics damned if he does and damned if he doesn’t in Sookie eyes he can never win.

    SacredmOOn Reply:

    I say Ditto SVB I all around agree with you

    Holby Reply:

    Okay, Vampires use blood to heal, fae use breath. Vampires also use blood to bond…do fae use their breath??? And is Dermot working on a bond with Sookie without her knowledge?

    Holding Eric to a different standard? Getting pissy because Eric doesn’t appreciate/respect her human sensibilities? I don’t fault Eric’s bite, nor his celebratory attitude. If Sookie took a dose of her own medicine, she would see that Pam and Eric were much more under the yoke of Victor. Sookie’s life may have been in danger occasionally, but Eric told her at the time of the takeover that Victor wouldn’t squander that which was useful…Victor was, for all intents and purposes, lord and master over Pam and Eric. The couldn’t jump without his approval. When Pam exhaulted “we’re free” she was speaking literally. If Sookie would have looked at their position more empathetically, she may have understood why Victor’s death was necessary no matter what level of violence was required to make it happen.

    heart's desire Reply:

    “I think it’s very telling that at the end of the chapter she WAS relieved and fell right asleep without, “crying or praying or sitting in a corner with her eyes wide open the rest of the night.”

    Yeah – Sookie is struggling with what she thinks she *should* feel & should want. Eric knows who he is. Sookie is still trying to figure that out for herself & so much of what she thought she knew keeps changing.

    I also agree she holds Eric to another standard. CH is giving us a lot of comparisons, which I think is a good sign. We have Sookie using Bubba the way Eric used Terry. Sookie doesn’t care about supes, the way Eric doesn’t care about humans. We see her again struggle with the violence of a death she’s happy about with Sandra Pelt. What’s funny is, Sookie’s ready to blow Sandra’s head off, is relieved when she’s dead – yet is turned off by the way Jannalynn finished her. I don’t blame her for being grossed out or still being affected by death. But is it fair for her to judge Jannalynn when she is happy Sandra Pelt was dead & admits she didn’t really care about her?

    But I do think she’s realizing this. She comes to understand what was bothering her about “the mayhem the night before”. She says, “It wasn’t the individual deaths I found so appalling, but the level of violence, the sheer horror of seeing so much dealt out & received…. Just as I found Jannalynn’s execution of Sandra the most disturbing thing about today’s encounter.”

    So… she’s not disturbed that they are dead – just the brutality of it. In other words, if a freshly showered Eric had showed up at Sookie’s doorstep & said – it’s done, they are all dead – she would have been so relieved he was alive & free from Victor, she would have jumped him on the spot. I think that’s the lesson here. :D LOL

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    Sherry Reply:

    I think it has to do with the violence of the kill. Jannalynn doesn’t just like to kill – she likes to inflict pain. She takes pride in her brutality. That is a big difference compared to wanting a quick death from someone like Sookie and drawing out death.

    Viking Dame Reply:

    LOL, Rhett Butler moment…I love it!

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    Freyja Reply:

    And didn’t CH say she loved Gone With The Wind? ;) She has made quite many comparisons with that book/movie in SSN.

    Holby Reply:

    Kudos

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    C.K. Reply:

    Maybe the series will end with them watching Gone with the Wind together. She references it so much. Sookie wondered if Eric ever saw it.

    SacredmOOn Reply:

    No your not cruel it’s Sookie’s issue. She always looks at situations from only her POV, she doesn’t take into account anyone elses. Then she makes jugdements with only her View only and places verdict, damn everyone else who does not agree with her and her view of the world. She has always been selfish to me thoughout the series (books).She has never been HUMAN wake up Sook you are and been a Supe and Always Will Be, especially now that she’s feeling even more Fae and Younger.

    Her view on her precious Gran has been shattered, to the point Sookie always has said “What Would Gran Do?” “What Would Gran Say?” Know she realizes she can’t say anymore.

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    *C.K. Reply:

    Sookie is also kind of like Scarlet in the feelings department too. The Quinn situation really hurt Eric more than Sookie knows. In one book Pam begged Sookie to be nicer to Eric. In All Together Dead, Eric asked Sookie if she loved Quinn and she said she didn’t know. BS he was always the rebound guy. When she broke up with Quinn she said it had nothing to do with Eric. Again I think that was BS because Eric played a factor into it. Just admit that he was the rebound guy. She might have not went out with Quinn if Eric was not avoiding her. Both of them wants the other to open up first. I think Eric wanted Sookie to admit that she loved him before he would admit it. Even though he ended up admiting it first. Like when Sookie was on the porch she said “You first”. That sums up some of their problem each is always waiting for the other one to go first.

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    LLE Reply:

    Sookie fallen for Eric in book four when they became lovers. Eric did not remember the time with Sookie but sure did. Sookie missed Eric when he left her and very heart broken for her.

    Quinn was the rebound guy. Sookie would never had gotten involve with Quinn if Eric remember everything. Sookie kept saying that Quinn was her boyfriend to everyone because she thought he was important to the supe world. Sookie was dating Quinn because he was like a rock star. When Sookie found that Quinn was not that important in the supe world more like a pawn, she made a excuse to dump him. She used the only way we can be together is to dump your family and I know you can’t and I want to be first.

    Two reason she dump Quinn because he no longer in important in the supe world to protect her and the other is she wanted Eric after she found out that he remember everything.

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    C.K. Reply:

    I agree that she made excuses for breaking up with Quinn. I don’t think she was ever that into him in the first place. I think Sookie wanted to like Quinn more than she did. Subconsciously I think she wanted to make Eric jealous. She was hurt and mad at Eric. I think Quinn knew that she really wanted Eric.

    IATM Reply:

    LOL i agree LLE,

    Sookie called it qicks with Quinn because she claimed she didnt come first in his life ( excuse).. in that same discussion with Quinn she didnt mind that Eric didnt so call put her first ( DAG)..

    so i dont think Sookie was really into Quinn in the first place..

    regarding Sam though.. Sookie has this affection for him that almost comes across as more then Best Friends..

    i just Hope CH doesnt pull a cliche’ move & Sookie all along figures out that she was in love with her Male Best Friend?? **sigh** & BORING IMO

    LLE Reply:

    I don’t think it will be Sam because she really want to relationship with a hot guy that she tells everyone that he’s her boyfriend and have plenty of sex. She does not want to live with guy at all.

    Sookie comes first and when mention about the CD wish first thing came out of her mouth can she rid of telepathic and he said no.

    If she had to do a wish, the person she would pick is herself first.

    IATM Reply:

    i hope your RIGHT LLE..

    Lydia Reply:

    I was wondering if Ms. Harris was bowing to the television show and having Eric not being able/not wanting to stop biting Sookie and Bill having to stop him from taking too much blood from Sookie, like the same scene this past season in the bar.

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    IATM Reply:

    in s3 when Eric drank from Sookie he didnt drop FANG.. but yes, he enjoyed his drink that she offered.. **snort**

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    C.K. Reply:

    Like IATM said ,

    Eric could have stopped in the show, he was in complete control. He was just being greedy and wanted more, Sookie didn’t even seem concerned just annoyed. If Eric had lost control Sookie would have been dead. He even did a smug thing when he wipe the blood of his mouth.

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    EricNorthmanforever Reply:

    I like the term “bitegasm” lol. Since Sookie was not in the mood to rejoice and “was not feeling a bit horny at the moment” then what’s the point in Eric’s mind to apply the “bitegasm.” Why made her feel all blissful when she’s not in the mood right?

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    IATM Reply:

    :-) HA i like that term “Bitegasm”..

    in DR Eric wasent even hard when he bit Sookie.. Sookie always tell’s us that Eric is horny after battle & a great kill.. NOT this time ( Sookie is a buzz kill).. the G.P. didnt rise UP after battle **snort**

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    LLE Reply:

    I would call it abuse and what happens the next time Eric gets mad at Sookie beats her up or kills her.

    Doing that out of angry is an abuse and abuser alway abuser.

    I doubt Eric did it out of angry more like he had a plan and Eric always has a plan and Sookie on it. They both are up to something and CH has not let us know about it until the end.

    Eric finally gave up and decides he going to marry the Queen and push Sookie way by biting her like that. Eric knows that Sookie was abuse victim from Bill.

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    C.K. Reply:

    Eric’s not going to kill Sookie. Maybe if she cheated on him but other than that. Sookie would drive a stake threw Eric’s heart if he ever cheats on her. I doubt that would happen though.

    The thing with Eric and Sookie is that they suppress their feelings. The tension build and builds and builds and then they lash out. Sookie screams and Eric makes snide remarks. Like in Club Dead, Eric comments on the state of Sookies driveway. She loses it and starts screaming about how she can’t afford a new driveway, and Bill buys a house for his relatives but doesn’t even think to fix her driveway. I do not believe Eric would lose that much control with Sookie where he would kill her over a fight. It has been said a million times that was a douchbag move but I don’t see it as battery. This does show that they need to communicate by talking.

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    LLE Reply:

    When you bite some the person is in very much and had tears in her eyes I would call it you hurting the person. CH is a victim of abuse and rape and noway will she pick someone that will Sookie’s HEA. If Eric did it because he was mad and wanted to punished her that will be abuse and it cross the line and he won’t be Sookie’s HEA. He will keep repeating it and its a cycle.

    Bill has been abusing Sookie the entire relationship and Eric will become another Bill.

    CH always says that Eric is a schemer and always has a plan and he up to something. Eric did not do it punished her at all but playing some game.

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    LLE Reply:

    CH is victim of rape and abuse and noway will she have Eric as Sookie’s HEA if that bite meant to punished Sookie. Eric had no business punished Sookie being mad at Sookie for not cheering that Victor is dead. I don’t blame her at all and I am glad she felt that way.

    Sookie is a victim of being abuse and they keep going back to the abuser or make excuses that they deserve it.

    If Eric did it for another reason and Sookie was in on the plan it would not be abuse and he would still be in on as HEA.

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  • Serena

    ” I think FDC might actually be on Eric’s side in all this. After all, he did eliminate a power-hungry vulture!” ~ Skarlove from Thread Numero Uno.

    Yeah Skar, I agree. Felipe *had* to have known that Victor was a bad seed and what would come of him if left unattended, IMO FDC promoted him just enough to keep him off his own ranch and let him become someone else’s problem.. He may even have considered just letting the situation boil to the point that either Victor or Eric would kill each other. As for going forward, if Felipe wants to keep LA he has to placate Eric, maybe Red Rita becomes Regent of both Louisiana and Arkansas.. But I think the dynamic is set up that Felipe *has* to forgive Eric and side with him against Freyda in the marriage squabble.

    Though maybe even if Felipe sides with Eric in regards to the marriage, that issue might not be over. That bleeping informal summit HAS to be on the agenda soon, really soon, and Freyda could appeal to the Amun Clan to settle up her claim. Amun must have an anti-Felipe stance at this point, I wonder which way they’d rule on such a thing. They have no reason to trust Freyda over Felipe in the ever expanding regime department though. I even wonder if we’ll see a ruling by the Ancient Pythoness.. But even if Felipe does side with Eric on the marriage it might not be enough. What then?

    Egads!

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    Serena Reply:

    Another thought I’ve been mulling related to this,…I know Freyda claiming Texas aspect hasn’t panned out yet, (nor did we get like a single clue in DR, UGH), but it looks like it could still happen, – especially if she is denied Eric. It could be a reactionary move against Felipe rather than preemptive.

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    Krtmd Reply:

    And then Eric mentioned in DR the King of Arizona. I don’t remember him being mentioned in DITF. Perhaps we have a full scale vampire war breaking out in the south central states???

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    Serena Reply:

    I don’t recall him either.. Yeah could possible, I think King of Arizona might be tugging at Felipe’s home base .. I wish there had been more politics in DR. At least a few more clues to where she is going with this. :(

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    SVB Reply:

    Agree that FDC will probably side with Eric. I don’t think he’ll give a crap that E did him the favour of killing someone who had his eye on FDC’s job.

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    SVB Reply:

    Totally. I think Eric said as much in DITF…something about FDC throwing Victor a bone in giving him the regency of Louisiana to stop him coming after the whole steak. I’m completely convinced that Felipe decided before the takeover to leave Eric in place, if he possibly could – knowing there was a good chance that Eric and Victor wouldn’t be able to share the same playpen. Felipe is going to be thrilled – his problem with the “ambitious” Victor is solved, and he didn’t get one drop of blood on his hands to do it.

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    glamored Reply:

    ITA! I think FdC put Victor there on purpose, knowing V would do something stupid and hoping that Eric would take care of the problem for him. I can’t imagine V’s behavior in Reno was condoned, even in the vamp world, his business choices in LA were certainly not in FdC’s best interest, and after leaving Vampire’s Kiss, Pam said that V could not be restrained. FdC knew that V would lose it when he wasn’t made king, knew that Eric would only be V’s whipping boy for so long, and hoped Eric would do what he(FdC) couldn’t or wouldn’t.

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    WaitingForSunday Reply:

    Yes. I think Felipe wanted Eric to deal with Victor and keep him out of it. IMO Victor was very stupid in goading Eric, which reminds me of QSA and “stupid” Jennifer Cater. In the next book, Felipe should be thrilled with Eric and be anxious to keep him out of Freyda’s clutches.

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    SacredmOOn Reply:

    That’s the same way I viewed it to SVB.

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    Skarlove Reply:

    I do hope there’s another visit from the Ancient Pythoness! I would LMAO if Sookie showed up to the next summit and offended her again by butting in on her ruling!! Perhaps pleading the case for her relationship to Eric? (*begging*)

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  • Kirsten

    As things stand now, with the bond broken, does he really still have Sookie if he marries Freyda?

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    Krtmd Reply:

    Probably not. Even with the bond, it was no guarantee. Remember, the bond between Eric and Sookie didn’t really work the way the vamps expected it to. Andre expected her to heel even before their blood exchange in the hallway in Rhodes, and Eric let him believe that. I don’t see him advertising to anyone that the blood bond wasn’t quite what he expected. I’m guessing that Freyda thought that if Eric was bonded to a telepathic human, she’d be getting a sweet asset. But if Felicia was spying, then who knows what she might’ve let slip. So many questions.

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    LLE Reply:

    Eric could had force Sookie to anything but he did want that at all. In CH books, you are seeing what Eric’s blood does to Sookie and Sookie is making her own decisions. On True Blood you are seeing Sookie acting like an idiot because of Bill’s blood. On the show, Bill is controlling her and she can’t do any thing without Bill.

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    Krtmd Reply:

    I’ll be the first to admit that I might be wrong about how the bond worked. I certainly wouldn’t be the only one. :-)
    I realize that Eric could have used it with Sookie in ways she wouldn’t like, but he did not. But I still feel that the text supports the idea that the bond also worked in ways that Eric did not anticipate. “We’re a little too tightly bound to suit me.” ” The bond works both ways.”
    In this theory, an ordinary bonded human would have to follow her vampire lover to OK as a human pet, even if she had been set aside as a wife. In this theory, that would be what Freyda would expect to happen. Eric is trying to get out of the marriage without revealing that Sookie doesn’t behave the way the vamps expect a bonded human to behave.

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    LLE Reply:

    Eric maker save Sookie’s life by commanding her and obey him. If Eric really wanted Sookie to be a slave, Sookie would had been slave.

    If Bill and Sookie were blood bond, Sookie would be remfield zombie.

    AB is doing that now with Sookie always taking Bill’s blood and she can’t function without Bill.

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    Krtmd Reply:

    Well, if we’re applying the book bb mythology, then TB Sookie should be ‘put down’ because she’s not worth turning, or worth anything at all.
    This is like comparing apples to oranges, IMO, comparing how the books and the show treats the blood and the bonds it creates.
    In my case, I’m only talking about the books.

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    LLE Reply:

    If Bill and Sookie had blood bond, Sookie would had been put down.

    Bill already had been blood bond and it did not go well because of what Bill did to the human. Sookie did not ask much questions because she did want to know.

    Sookie on TB really is not worth much and I can’t see by Eric is interested in Sookie at all. I hope by the time Sookie leaves fairy land that she will no longer have Bill and Eric blood and start to think for herself.

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    *C.K. Reply:

    In the show Eric spoils Pam. Even though she is only 100 yrs old he values her opinion like she is equal in age. This is very telling. I wish we would find out more about the book blond bond.

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    C.K. Reply:

    Wouldn’t Eric and Sookie have to get a divorce first? Eric is a minister so their marriage should be legal and Sookie is part fae so she can be considered as supernatural. They said he can’t have a human and vampire wife. He could claim her as a “concubine” but do not think Sookie would go for that and I do not think Eric would degrade her in that way.

    I hope Eric asks her to marry him human style someday. She did not have a choice in the “vamp marriage” but she would have a choice if he asked her “human stlye”.

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    Gretchen Reply:

    I think Sookie should ask Eric to marry her human style.

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    *C.K. Reply:

    Gretchen, I like your idea better!

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    Lydia Reply:

    Wondering if Queen of Oklahoma already has a telepathic human…our boy Barry…Oklahoma, just a hop, skip & a jump from Texas…

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    Sherry Reply:

    I think thats going to be a big factor with the coming books. Bill says it first: What does Fredya have? Plenty of money, oil, minions, land and fighters. What does she actually need Eric for? A bonded telepath willing to risk herself for vampires. Eric’s been stuffed into a corner politically first by Sophie-Anne, then by FDC and then again by Victor. So you can’t say he’s the most politically savvy guy in the room because he’s not.

    He’s unfortunately not even the best of the best fighters. It takes both him and Pam tag teaming and a little interference from Sookie to bring Victor down. So it can’t be that either.

    He’s got money of his own but not as much as the Queen and he certainly can’t bring Area 5 with him. That only leaves one thing Fredya could want.

    Sookie.

    And guess what? Sookie’s not bonded to Eric anymore. That means she doesn’t have to go with him to Oklahoma if he does. The marriage only protects her from Felipe because she’s already bonded to an asset of his state.

    A marriage to Oklahoma with another vamp is going to supersede a vamp-human marriage if we’re going by what we all know about how vamps treat humans.

    No bonded Sookie = no reason to marry Eric.

    At least that’s my thought on it.

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    Sherry Reply:

    Oh and also, not only her telepathic attributes and willingness to work with vampires but also her ties to the fairies would be advantageous to Fredya.

    I think Eric’s going to get out of this easily enough once the Queen realizes the one thing she really wants, she won’t get.

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    Krtmd Reply:

    I agree this theory is a strong possibility. Also, when Pam says ‘you need to be looking out for yourself Sookie’ – it seems to me she was being literal here. It would also go a long way to explaining Eric’s overwhelming anger at this situation. Not only is he unable to solve the problem on his own, but he might not even be wanted for himself, but for his telepathic human wife. And it’s not like he’d become King of OK through the marriage, but more like TB Talbot. Not a good situation for our freedom loving sherriff.

    On the flip side, how does Freyda know of Sookie? From Rhodes, I suppose. Ocella seemed a little surprised about Sookie when he met her, “Eric, where did you find her. She’s rare. ” I want to know more about the arrangement part. Who approached who? Was Ocella out looking for a match, or did OK come to him?

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    KCScout Reply:

    I think there’s also an outside shot that perhaps someone’s convinced OK to want Eric for her consort, in hopes of Eric and Sookie being separated.

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    Holby Reply:

    KCScout…I agree…I was just assuming Victor planted a seed. He may not know how far everything has progressed, but didn’t Appius imply that Victor had a hand in bringing him to LA? (Or was that a theory in a post before DITF came out?? I get confused sometimes ;-)

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  • MollyS

    I’ve been waiting for an “Eewww…gross” thread, but since it hasn’t shown up yet, I’ll post here. Amelia’s text that the fairies were going nuts sniffing the porch after E and S’s sexy time made me groan out loud, not just because the image is disturbing but because Sookie didn’t question their actions. Wouldn’t this support the theory that they are looking for Sook to become a fae breeder? Yet Sookie never mentions it again and continues to wonder what the faeries are up to.

    And speaking of that porch scene, the fact that for the first time that’s described to us Eric didn’t bite her during sex is just one more entry in the “You know he loves Sookie because…” list since he didn’t do anything towards renewing the bond she just broke. Now I wonder if the exchange at the end is setting them on their way to renewing it again. Is CH really going to have Sookie go back to it after resenting it for 3+ books?

    My apologies if these ideas were posted in the other thread. I didn’t see them in my quick read, through, but it was hard to catch everything. :)

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    glamored Reply:

    I don’t think she resented the bond, she just did not trust her feelings because of it. She was actually pretty reliant on it and it served her, and Eric, and Pam, and FdC, quite well. She’ll want and need it back.

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    jayetea Reply:

    @glamored – I have to disagree. I think that Sookie resented the blood bond quite a bit. I think she felt controlled by it, like all the times when she’d mention that being around Eric made her feel safe and happy, but she couldn’t do anything about that and it pissed her off. I also think she found it emotionally exhausting at times, especially when she felt Eric’s anger after DAG. I do think that she had come to learn to use it to her advantage very well before she broke it, and you’re right that she was able to save Eric, Pam and herself by using it, but I think she resented it from the moment it was created.

    I can see her having a totally different attitude about it if she decides to renew it, though, because she’ll being doing it by her own choice with her eyes wide open and she’ll understand the consequences.

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    IATM Reply:

    i totaly agree,

    Eric would die for Sookie.. he places himself in battle to protect her.. he just doesnt go around saying it every second.. & he would perfer for her to stay out of trouble..

    like the scene when Amelia cam over Sookie’s house & said ” so what kinda trouble are you in now Sookie” since you called me ? & Eric said ” Yes what kinda trouble are you in now”?? & it was as if Eric was saying ” you didnt call me first”??

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    C.K. Reply:

    IATM, I also noticed that Eric didn’t bite her during that scene.
    Now that you mention it I did find it gross when Claude noticed. He is really starting to give me the creeps and Sam seemed concerned that Claude was parading around the house nude. Claude even mentioned to Sookie that he has been with women and kind of hit on her when she was in the shower in DIFT. Maybe Sookie will be faced with a similar choice that Gran was. Have a fae baby or be with Eric and have no kids. I thin that letter helped Sookie to recognize Grans mistakes. I do not think Sookie even wants kids as muc as she used too. I think Sookes want of chldren is more a part of being considerd “normal”. Adele mentioned in the letter that she thought having kids would ake everything “perfect” but that she realized it did not. I think this book reinforced the fact that Sookie will not have children (unless the crazt fae knock her up via “enchanment rape”.

    There is still a lot we do not know about that “blood bond”. Eric was supposed to have a talk with Sookie about it when she was ready but I do not think they ever did. CH mentioned that the bond is not some mathimatical equation. You do not get the same results everytime. Sookie and Eric might not even be able to reform the “blood bond” even if they choose to try. There were benefits to the bond and Sookie even admitted to Bill that part of her missed it. Even though Bill’s “blood bond” from years ago ended badly. Sookie and Eric’s was different and if it could be reformed they would understand it even more. Yes, I also think that Sookie resented the blood bond just like she resents the marriage. It is the fact that she was tricked and forced into the situation. I do not think she wanted to give Eric the satisfaction by saying that a part of her does not mind the marraige. Once Eric told Sookie that she would like the blood bond. When she felt happy she got mad that he was right.

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    C.K. Reply:

    Sorry I meant to say Molly brought up the gross fae porch scene.

    IATM, one of the reasons I like Eric is that he does not need to take the credit to the things he does. He does not feel the need to constantly profess his love for Sookie. When he does say it he means it but he does not need to shout it from the mountain tops for all the world to hear. I remember the scene from From Dead to Worse. Bill says that he would die for Sookie and makes sure that they know it. We all know Bill loves Sookie because he says it enough. He asks Eric if he could say the same thing that he would die for her. Eric does not answer but I believe he would. Eric does not need to say it for him to know it. Yes, Eric has risked his life many times for Sookie. He would die for Pam too.

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    IATM Reply:

    Excatly C.K.

    Eric doesnt need to announce what he does for Sookie all the time.. in fact i think that is why Sookie consider’s him so high handed??

    in DR CH also made Sookie very High Handed as well..

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    wahoozit Reply:

    That spectacular bonehead move on Bills part in front of the Nevada vampires just painted a bigger target on Sookies back as the first person to start torturing should Bill misbehave.
    Eric beofre has stated he will protect her for as long as he is able and his life is not endangered as a result.
    However since then he has risked his life for her, so his feelings have evolved since that pronouncement.
    When she had the bomb in Rhodes he was there trying to get her to hand it to him.
    In the Fae war he rushed to her aid and gave her blood to help her heal when he needed it himself (something she didn’t find out till much later) and then went on to fight Breandans followers for her.
    No grandiose pronouncements its just done.

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    glamored Reply:

    That is true. She did hate it at first when she and Eric weren’t together. She was still trying to convince herself that she did not have feelings for him, and when she did it pissed her off. After they got together it was exhausting at times, but I don’t think she resented it, at that point, she just did not trust her feelings because of it.

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    heart's desire Reply:

    I think it all depends on whether or not Sookie misses the bond enough to want to renew it – which she very well may. She definitely has mixed feeling about it. I’m kinda hoping she does. Sookie needed to know her feeling for Eric were real w/out the bond. Now that that’s been been established, who knows?

    I don’t thinks that’s what the bite was about, renewing the bond – but that may be where CH is headed. It is nice that Eric doesn’t ALWAYS bite her during sex, especially that time. I liked that too.

    I agree C & D sniffing the porch was gross, but that seems to be the way of all supes when they catch a new scent. They try to identify it. LOL I don’t think there was anything unusual or more meaningful to it, but I could be wrong.

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    harmony Reply:

    I think the porch scene shows us that she misses or are going to…she was looking for feeling more, IDK if i am clear.

    But she defenetly felt the BB, she often said that she could sense Eric waking up and the buzz in her head

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    Morgan Jane Reply:

    About being a fae breeder… Wouldn’t it be something if she already was one. She pukes in his book easily, yeah she makes an excuse but Sookie does have a strong stomach. She has seen alot but in this book she is really sick when she sees the gore. Claude and Dermot have been sharing her bed. The fairies are sneaky and way different than humans. The breathing into eachother was an example of how different they are. (what did that do to her?) Plus we learned that Preston wasn’t the only shape shifting fairy. Fitan changed into Grandpa Mitchell! What if Sookie had a fairy turn into Eric?

    Plus, did Fitan want to make a fairy/human with the spark for a reason? The reason may have been that breeding was hard with fairies but a human with the spark may be just as good to them? What is with Mr. C’s gift? Does he want to make a fairy with telepathy. Sookie and Hunter breeding with a fairy would produce such a child.

    Big question is why Fitan wanted Niall away from the situation? Why did Breedan hate the human hybrid so bad… was it because Fitan and Niall wanted to make a better fairy that would survive in this world?

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    KCScout Reply:

    “was it because Fitan and Niall wanted to make a better fairy that would survive in this world?”

    I think so and I wonder if it isn’t still going on . . . Tara’s having twins.

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    *C.K. Reply:

    Oh KCScout, I never thought of that either with Tara and the twins. Claude knew what she was having. Can Claude only identify the sex of fae babies with it? Claude was never showed the slightest interest in Sookie before even when they did that romance cover. Now he is checking her out in the show and roaming around the house naked. Niall knows that Eric claimed Sookie so it would be even more sleezy if he set Claude up to it.

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    Holby Reply:

    Not only that…but Tara told Sookie that she and JD were using multiple birth control methods!!!

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    *C.K. Reply:

    OMG! I hope CH does not go that route. I did notice her getting sick alot but she was looking at severed heads. I hope she kills Claude and Dermot if that is true. The elf noticed something different about Sookie it seemed more than just her fae aurora. I was wondering the same thing if a fae can impersonate a vampire. If a fae could impersonate a vampire, I think Niall would have had Preston change into Eric instead of a random supe. Maybe, fae cannot impersonate vampires.

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    Hootiecat1 Reply:

    CK…

    What if Amelia removed the wards, instead of renewed them? What if Claude sent the two kidnapper? What if when Dermot breathed into Sookie it was to be-spell her? Why did Dermot breath into Sookie if she was not hurt or sick? (she did fall asleep after)
    Maybe the “Gift Wrapped” Preston was Niall’s first try to get Sookie pregnant? Sookie wasn’t married to Eric then.

    What if all this time Claude & Dermot have been working on getting Sookie more fae for an unplanned pregnancy of the fae kind? Why did Claude say Sookie was withering?

    I’M HAVING A MIND SPREE HERE: What if that night Sookie was to be kidnapped, be-spelled and impregnated by the fae, their plans all fell apart? Claude knew Sookie no longer had a BB with Eric, but Sookie had kicked Claude out of the house? What if the Fairies did a fertility spell on Sookie and instead of being kidnapped for the fae plan — Sookie had hot Happy Moments with Eric on the porch and with this powerful fae magic Sookie’s impregnated by Eric?

    Maybe that’s why Claude & Dermot were sniffing the porch. Maybe they could smell the results of their magic?

    LMAO AT MYSELF…I HAVE A GREAT IMAGINATION….

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    Hootiecat1 Reply:

    P.S.

    Amelia and Claude were pretty confident putting Alcied in her bed? With Sookie’s actions so far in her marriage to Eric why would anyone think she really loves him? Maybe even Eric doesn’t…

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    C.K. Reply:

    Hootiecat1,

    I don’t know what the breathing into Sookie was about but the elf healed Dermot with that method. I hope CH does not take that road and have Sookie being enchanted/violated by the fae several times without her knowledge.

    I also found it suspicious that Dermot removed Amelia’s wards no matter what ecuse he gave. Maybe Amelia did come to eliminate the wards.

    I did like that Sookie told Alicde that she was out with Eric the night before and had Guiness book of World record sex with him.

    CH said that vampires can’t impregnate humans so that theory is probably out. It is an interesting thought though. I almost wish Eric and Sookie could have a kid together because they would have some beautiful babies.
    They created sinthetic blood so why couldn’t they explore a way for vamps/humans to have kids. I know it won’t happen though.

    A lot of questions about the fae. I just don’t trust them. What was going on at Hooligans? I don’t accept their explanation entirely.

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    MollyS Reply:

    Hmmm, I hadn’t thought that she already might be a breeder. That’s pretty disturbing, and I hope CH doesn’t go there. I’m hoping all this creepy fairy behavior, not just C and D but questioning for the second time the Preston short story episode she can’t remember and all the other little hints are just leading her to distrust faeries in general and not to suggest that she’s already pregnant.

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    Holby Reply:

    Just like Calvin wanting Sookie so that he could revitalize the bloodline in Hotshot!

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  • Liz

    i am sure Niall is backing OK, but his motivation could be so many things. The big blonde could be anyone, Sookie didnt ask Eric about it, and its not safe to make assumptions in this series.
    I really want to know what is up with the fae power structure. Why havent a king or queen ever been mentioned? Did i miss something here? Only princes have been mentioned. So if only a female can be queen, then why wasnt Claudine already queen, or at least in line. She would have been too important to have been given body guard duties. Is Niall trying to keep the throne for himself, or breed Sookie to her uncle.
    I am so confused, this book did a real number on me, it took me a few days instead of mere hours to finish as it agitated me so much i kept putting it down which is very unusual. ahhh

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    KCScout Reply:

    I thought perhaps Niall reported to Queen based on the early Amazon description until I was advised that Ms. Harris has confirmed that “prince” is the highest royal authority in fae-dom. Of course, she could always change her mind, but I think she considers herself the “Queen” of all things Sookie.

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    Sherry Reply:

    I don’t believe Claudine was a direct descendant (though I might be wrong) she was a descendant of one of Niall’s brothers or sisters or something like that. Dillon was a relation but not direct in line.

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    WaitingForSunday Reply:

    Claudine is Niall’s granddaughter. Her father is Dillon, son of Niall and his first wife, Branna (DAG Ch. 8).

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  • Dee

    Liz-Sookie did bring up Terry to Eric, and he said that this was before he really knew her.

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  • dano328

    Just finished. I dragged it out as long as I could. Loved it. I’ll start reading comments and see what everyone is talking about.

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  • Mary

    I had a Barry related issue. Even though he was not featured at all in DR. Mr. C. being good friends with Fintan made a wish for his descendants that had the spark would receive a gift of telepathy. Does it mean that Barry has the essential spark? Grandma Adele had the spark because Fintan was attracted to woman with it. So there is more to Sookie’s family line. She might be more than 1/8 fae. It will be interesting to know more and see what becomes of Mr. C. and his enemies. Wonder where that will go. There are things happening with the demons even Diantha is being hidden. There are things that go bump in the night that are scared.

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    EricNorthmanforever Reply:

    I was wondering about Barry and how he got his telepathy. Was Mr. C involved in this too?

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  • I can’t decide if Pam was encouraging Eric to enter in to the marriage, or if she was looking out for Sookie’s feelings.

    After finding out about Eric’s arranged marriage I thought it was strange that Pam initially lost it at the fact that Sookie sleeps with two men (Claude and Dermot) and was spending the day with another man (Sam). Pam and Eirc got so angry that they had a fight in Sookie’s kitchen … was that Pam pointing out Sookie’s wayward feelings and pushing Eric into the marriage…?

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    cookie Reply:

    same here.Because it was like she was saying she doesn’t commit at all why should you be rejeting this incredible rise.Or she was saying you aren’t that great husband to her.But then eric says that she is a good friend to her more than she should be

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    Freyja Reply:

    I think Pam was goading both Eric and Sookie to start behaving like real couple or end it. Because the Freyda problem isn’t going away.

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    harmony Reply:

    yeah they are both acting like teenager sometime, I loved when Eric realised that sookie too was hiding some stuffs

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    wahoozit Reply:

    Agree with the if you aren’t going to give it a proper go then you may as well go to Freyda meaning behind Pams words.
    Both have preconceptions about how their relationship will work that they need to leave behind.
    Sookie isn’t going to become a vampire, or be under Erics control as the bond didn’t work as it normally did. She can learn to understand most vampire rules and etiquette. However some she won’t fully rejoice at and others she will disagree with.
    Eric is not going to suddenly morph into the ultimate nice guy complete with a set of human morals either. He is what many of his race consider to be good (even though it would be far form what human society would view as good) and has his own code of honour which extends beyond the quest for power/autonomy most other vampires are on. He will weaken his position for Sookie and will protect her has far as he can. He won’t die for her as that would acheive nothing and be an empty, grandiose gesture considering the situations they find themselves in.

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    harmony Reply:

    They will need more time and tought. Actually their situations could be compare to a mixed couple. My patner is from a completly different culture, and in the begining we were reproching stuff to each other, it took us sometimes to stop judging the other half, and stop seeing the situation from our pov our background. Someday it still set my teeth on edge. :-)

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    northmanfan Reply:

    Actually, by fighting Breandan et al at the end of DAG, Eric proved he was willing to die for sookie. They were fairly outnumbered and fairies/vamps are a pretty even match. Eric could have died in that situation. He even put himself at the forefront to meet them in battle. So to me, yes, he is willing to die for her.

    Otherwise, I pretty much agree with your statement. Eric has a code of honor and is capable of feeling love for others (particularly sookie).

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    northmanfan Reply:

    I haven’t read DR, but have enjoyed the discussions here. I have to also add agreement with those who reject the notion that eric would abandon sookie b/c she decides not to become a vampire or for the power offered by an alliance with Freyda. He’s a thousand years old. I’m quite sure he’s seen women prettier than sookie and I’m quite sure he’s considered the possibility she will decide not to turn and will age. If he didn’t think she was worth the risk I don’t think he would have stayed with her this far.

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    northmanfan Reply:

    Forgot to add that by eric has pretty much put his life on the line for sookie before. When he formed the blood bond with her in ATD, he knew that Andre would seek retaliation. Also, when he married her he basically defied FDC. Although, not directly putting his neck on the block, these actions set him up as a future target (possibly for death).

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    wahoozit Reply:

    True he did and that was long after his till my own neck is on the line statement. So his feelings have evolved further. To be honest now their fates are so intertwined its hard to see a situation where one of them is in danger that wouldn’t involve an equal threat to the other, save the Sadnra Pelt situation.

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    C.K. Reply:

    True, and even if Sookie and Eric are not together people could still use them to hurt the other one. They are pretty much affixed to each other at this point. They could stay together and be in danger or break up and still be in danger.

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    wahoozit Reply:

    True he did and that was long after his till my own neck is on the line statement. So his feelings have evolved further. To be honest now their fates are so intertwined its hard to see a situation where one of them is in danger that wouldn’t involve an equal threat to the other, save the Sandra Pelt situation.

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    wahoozit Reply:

    ack sorry for the double post it said it hadn’t been submitted :(

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    dano328 Reply:

    But then you had Eric tell Sookie that Pam was a better friend than she realized. Pam knows Eric wouldn’t leave Sookie unless it was better for Sookie’s safety. He may have been frustrated lately but she told him numerous times that she loves him. I am not buying the notion that Pam is encouraging Eric to leave Sookie for Freyda. Those three trust each other and have proven their devotion to each other through actions, despite Sookie’s bickering about being tricked. Remember Rhodes and Sookie’s frantic desperation to save Eric and Pam. Then in this book, she supported Eric when it counted. Sookie is devoted and I will be very surprised if she doesn’t fight for Eric.

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    C.K. Reply:

    Exactly right dano328,

    Pam is just as big a part of Eric and Sookie’s relationship. The three musketeers. I think Eric and Sookie both need to realize how much they are hurting Pam too. If Pam does leave, I think it would be becuase she is fed up and can’t stand to see Eric and Sookie implode. I hope Pam doesn’t leave. Pam put her pride aside in one of the books to beg Sookie to show mercy to Eric. I really admired Pam for that. It was sweet when Eric said he made a great choice in choosing Pam.

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    SacredmOOn Reply:

    I agree they three are to close and loyal and love each other.

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    C.K. Reply:

    Pam used to be amused by Eric and Sookie’s fights and banter but with the Mirium situation I think Pam realizes how precious time is. Now Miruim is dead so I think Pam’s amusement at Eric and Sookies miscommunication is done. I agree that Pam probably wants Eric and Eric to quit beating around the bush. I think Pam wants them to quit wasting the little time they have together. Pam could be the one to give them a wake up call by yelling at them. Eric did say that Pam was a good friend to Sookie.

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    znb Reply:

    C.K. i completely agree with u on that…pam being so insistent that eric tell sookie abt the queen,and giving sookie more thn a few hints really made me think the whole miriam thing really changed her perspective on eric and sookies relationship..god knows those two suck at communication,pam figures she might as well TRY n help..

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    Dee Reply:

    I agree with you ladies about why Pam insisted Eric tell Sookie. Awwww Pam, I feel so bad for her that she lost Miriam. I think she might end up being the voice of reason for Sookie. Pam will NOT just stand back and watch Eric and Sookie throw away their relationship without trying to talk sense into the both of them. Pam is good at evaluating situations and people and can tell Sookie exactly as it is. Sookie’s faults and Eric’s and making Sookie realize you should fight for the person you love and not take it for granted. This is probably why CH threw in the whole Pam/Miriam storyline.

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    Skarlove Reply:

    Freyja wrote: “I think Pam was goading both Eric and Sookie to start behaving like real couple or end it. Because the Freyda problem isn’t going away”

    That’s exactly how it seemed to me. Their lack of communication was such a strong undercurrent throughout this installment. The breaking of the bond didn’t help matters, but it is forcing Sookie to confront her true feelings about herself and the world around her. So many things in this book made me realize that they complete one another soooo well, and work better together than alone. Every time Sookie does something she knows Eric won’t like without telling him, she regrets it afterwards. But it works both ways; Eric may not have had to share his sandbox for the last 1000 yrs, but he’s gotta make room and not hog his toys, lol. He likes to say he keeps stuff from Sookie to protect her, but that’s only half true. And he’s selfish to think it doesn’t work both ways!

    I don’t believe Eric will end up having to marry Freyda. I’m pretty sure she’s going to have a hot date with a stake :) !

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    *C.K. Reply:

    In this book Eric did admit to Sookie that part of the reason he did not want to break the blood bond was because he feared that she would leave him. He was being really vulnerable. Pam can be their therapist.

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    jayetea Reply:

    @Danni,

    I also think that Pam was looking out for Sookie and wanted Eric to come clean and telling Sookie what was going on. Pam started doing that even way back in Club Dead when she pushed Eric into telling Sookie what was up with Bill and Lorena before they sent her to Jackson. She did a similar thing in ATD when she went to tell Sookie that she and Eric didn’t know that Bill had been sent by the Queen to seduce her. I am quite sure that Pam is also trying to help Eric, because she knows Sookie well enough to know that she isn’t going to stand by happily while Eric marries another vampire and she doesn’t want to see things blow up in Eric’s face either. Eric’s problems are Pam’s problems to a huge degree.

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  • jfozz

    Niall also mentioned previously that Fintan knew he could give a human woman a child and wouldn’t elaborate any further. also, when Sookie asked Mr. C who was after him, he said it was ‘pertinent’ but wouldn’t tell her. Hmm…

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    wahoozit Reply:

    Oooo yay just what Sookie needs, someone else who may want to come after her :D

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    *C.K. Reply:

    I thought it was dangerous for Mr. C to come to Sookies house when people were after him. It could bring unwanted attention to Sookie.

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    Sherry Reply:

    A lot of people seem to be in the habit of doing that.

    Eric’s brought threats to Sookie’s doorstep in DTTW just by staying at her place, they convinced her to let Charles T. stay with her who then set her house on fire in DAAD and then brought a hunting party of vamps who were tracking him right to her door in FDTW.

    I’m rather ticked at Sam though for letting Sandra P. to her house too. I’m glad she gets eaten.

    Niall leads fairies to her door.

    I blame Alcide for leading to everything Debbie related. Both directly and indirectly.

    I can’t remember if it was Jason or Michele who told a psycho vamp Alexi to “head on over to Sookie’s”

    Gah. Makes me want to punch a seal.

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  • Krtmd

    So, I read the airplane scene from ATD last night, and Mr. C outright lies to Sookie. “I’m not a telepath like you, my dear.” I guess demons aren’t like fairies, in that they can tell outright lies. Or the “like you” part is significant in some way.

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    jayetea Reply:

    @krtmd, Mr. C admitted to Sookie that he lied to Adele about drinking his blood; she just though she was drinking wine, so it seems like demons are perfecty capable of lying and willing to do so when they see fit.

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    Krtmd Reply:

    true enough jayetea

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    jayetea Reply:

    @krtmd, Also, when Mr.C tells Sook that he’s not a telepath like her, that’s technically true in a way, because he’s a telepath, but he’s not like her. That’s totally splitting hairs, though……

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    Krtmd Reply:

    but not unlike vampires and fairies or even demons to say something like that and consider it truth

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    Kirsten Reply:

    It’s also totally like a lawyer. It’d be pretty tough to be a lawyer who couldn’t tell lies.

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    KCScout Reply:

    Only if they’re sworn to tell the “whole” truth;)

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    MollyS Reply:

    I just saw that too! Perhaps this is another example of CH’s Sookieverse fact-checker not being so good at her job. Or else CH just changed her mind.

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    WaitingForSunday Reply:

    I just think he was lying. I also think no one else knows he’s a telepath. Can you imagine the secrets he must know? Who knows if his telepathy is limited to humans?

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  • lorraine

    I think pam is a true friend to Sookie shw wanted her to know about the marriage offer and to talk more openly about how he loces her and can be with out her. at the end when he bit her sookie had the cluveil dor with her she said early on in the book that it was like hugging her grate grandfather but 200 times more could that have had be senced by eric after the fight it was on her person then maybe that is why he was less gentale and tryed to drink for oonger it was making her esencse more fay. just a tought.

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  • Vladivostok

    With DR I’m more sure than ever that Bill wouldn’t be around if it wasn’t for the existence of the show.
    Sam has definitely been assigned the BFF as Sookie’s pov doesn’t mention his hotness and occasional role in her fantasies any longer. Alcide and Quinn already were out of the picture. With the build-up a new relationship would need, not to mention the time to break of Sookie’s relationship with Eric we can also assume that’s not going to happen. So it’s gojng to be Eric or nothing. Sookie doesn’t seem hell-bent to have children in DR and maybe her becoming more and more fae will not affect her life-span but will allow her to remain more youthfull? Jason’s already got the crow’s feet but Sookie is feeling younger and younger.

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    znb Reply:

    @vladivostok: yeah i was really intrigued by the whole part where sookie says she feels younger n younger…even though CH has said she’ll have normal life span…..maybe not?? or maybe just remaining youthful like u said…

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    Ashley Reply:

    The key is normale for what? She didn’t specific a normal HUMAN lifespan. I think that’s important.

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  • skargasmic

    FDC knew it was only a matter of time before the situation with the ambitious Victor and Eric would come to blows and his problem with Victor would be solved. So now, FDC, who has pretty much been silent and not answering Eric’s calls, will come out of the woodwork and side with Eric in the situation with Oklahoma. There should be another summit coming up for one of the territories, where Eric would be going on trial for the murder of Victor and Oklahoma can stake her claim to Eric via her contract with Appius, especially if FDC sides with Eric. I, for one, would love to read about a Summit again, I enjoyed every minute of Rhodes. I wonder what old Barry is doing! :)

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    harmony Reply:

    I wonder if Barry is from sookie familly via fintan or part demon? would it be coincidence that he is thelepate, not with CH

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    Serena Reply:

    I wonder what Barry is doing too.. If he went back to Texas or if is running around in disguise. Lol. Or if Barry decided he wanted to be turned to avoid being used by the FBI or other vamps in general. :?

    And that reminds me…. Stan was a telepath before he was turned so i think they exist without the essential spark plus demon blood cocktail. (though I think CH wanted to take back she said that about Stan at some point. Lol.)

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    C.K. Reply:

    I wonder if Barry will be in the next book? I did wonder too if Mr. C gave him telepathy.

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  • HelenaHandbasket

    I think that CH makes a subtle parallel between Niall/Eric ‘using’ Terry and Sookie coming up with the plan to kill Victor ‘using’ Bubba. Bubba was reluctant until Bill embellished and told Bubba it was a good plan.
    Both are mentally fragile and not quite right in the head.
    Both Terry and Bubba reactions were very similiar.
    Terry flipped out and was screaming after he struck Sandra, and Bubba screamed uncontrollably when the killing started.

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    Viking Dame Reply:

    Good point! There were several instances in this book where Sookie and Eric seemed like they were reading each other’s thoughts when they weren’t. It’s just that they know each other so well now (and I’m sure the BB helped in this respect). The Bubba thing was just another example of them thinking alike.

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    *C.K. Reply:

    They are so much alike maybe that is where some of their misunderstandings stem from because they are both stubborn. That is a great point about the parallels.

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    heart's desire Reply:

    Good point HH. I hope Sookie recognizes this in the next book. It pissed her off that Eric chose Terry, the fragile one. Take a look in the mirror, Miss Sookie. She wasn’t thinking about Bubba, anymore than Eric was thinking about Terry & what they could handle.

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    jsnider Reply:

    But Sookie does not see humans and vampires in the same way…even though Bubba is weak for a vamp–I think she wouldn’t consider it the same as using Terry…..it’s the whole hypocritical thing again

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    Ashley Reply:

    Yeah, Sookie even pointed this out at one point when Eric voiced a question about what she was thinking…she pointed out they knew each other very well.

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  • Ashley

    Okay, so I just finished the book everyone. I just got it yesterday, to be fair, and I was reading slowly to make sure I didn’t miss anything important.

    This was a VERY important book for Sookie. I think this book really showed us as readers how far she’s come from where she started. She doesn’t even think of herself as a human a lot of the time…I was struck by the line when the guests were leaving after the baby showere “It was a huge relief when all the humans were gone.” (p.310). Also she admitted that during the Victor battle that was the real her…she no longer fit in with the baby shower crowd. “I had to be willing to change myself forever, or everything I’d made myself do was for nothing.” She’s finally realizing she has to fully accept this part of her life, and be willing to fight without qualms if necessary.

    I loved the book as a whole. Yes, there are a lot of problems looming on the horizon, but there was a lot of good stuff here.

    Another thing I really loved…Sookie being okay with being alone during the day. Now I realize that some people seem to see this as a negative thing, but I find it reassuring that Sookie appreciates her alone time and independence while in a committed relationship with Eric. That WILL be her life if she’s with Eric after all. She will always be alone or left to her own devices during the day, no matter what. She HAS to be okay with that, and she was is this book ,that was made clear. And most of the time she mentions Eric when she’s not around him, unless she’s dealing with a lot of other things.

    Things I didnt like:

    The breaking of the bond…the way it happened, and Amelia’s role in it. I find myself really disliking Amelia. And I never got any indication that she disliked Eric before, is that just me? I feel like that was written in out of convenience. I know that she “forgot” to tell sookie Eric called that one time, but that could easily happen by accident. IDK, I was glad when she left to be honest. She was meddling and deciding what was best for Sookie. Sookie reacted with a lot more constraint than I would have. Also….Alcide, you are pathetic. Just had to say it. So glad that dude is outta here, not that I was ever concerned about him..because I wasn’t. What a jerk though.

    Bill was his usual pervy self, go figure. But he was okay…I mean he gave Sookie some good advice and at least he acknowledged her love for Eric. He really wasn’t in the book that much…I expected more from what I had heard.

    I don’t know about other people, but for me Sam has officially been delegated to BFF status…in my eyes and in Sookie’s…she even calls him her best friend and doesn’t even seem attracted to him in any way.

    Although, Sam’s judgements of Eric annoy me, big time. Sookie keeps her mouth shut about Jannalyn out of respect for Sam, but Sam won’t do the same for her, or her lifestyle in general. Sam’s an okay guy, but he needs to wake up and realize that Sookie is not just a waitress in his bar that happens to be telepathic anymore…She’s changed, and if he doesn’t like that he can stuff it, frankly.

    Freyda is a big problem, but I don’t know what’s going to happen there or what Felipe’s reactio will be. I too think Felipe won’t care about Victor’s death, and that was probably the preferred outcome.

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    Mony Reply:

    I was waiting for your thoughts about the book Ashley!!
    And, as always, i agree with you especially when you said that Sookie loved her space during the day and she is really fine when she is alone and that this is a really good thing if you decide to spend your life with a man who’s arounf at night only ;)
    ITA also about Sookie not talking or acting like a human anymore…that’s what her journey was about imo, accepting her true nature and place in the Supe’s world.

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    Viking Dame Reply:

    Yay Ashley! I was wondering when you’d join the pary, lol.

    There is much agreement about Amelia and like you, I never got the vibe that she was THAT against Eric prior to this book. I mean there was the forgetting to give Sookie the phone message (which even at the time I thought “how could she forget?” when Sookie even brought Eric’s name up in the conversation by saying she’d have to call him) and then she was trying to talk up “Drake” to Sookie. But none of that ever read as she didn’t want Sookie to be with Eric. But this book she just seemed downright vindictive about the whole thing.

    I also wasn’t crazy about the way that the BB was broken. I know that it had to happen b/c Sookie had to be sure that her feelings were genuine but I guess I was just hoping that Sookie would do it as a way to protect Eric. In DITF Pam had that conversation with Sookie about Eric being a great vampire but that he doesn’t always think clearly b/c of his feelings for her. I would have liked it better if Sookie had severed the bond thinking that she was freeing Eric somehow. But whatever, it is what it is. The important point is that they both still love each other and I can’t foresee anything changing that.

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    Ashley Reply:

    Oh yeah, I agree. It’s not that the bond was broken that bothered me, but the way Sookie did it all of a sudden like that….Eric would have felt her like “disappear”…that was wrong. I’m find with her doing it but she should have told him that she was going to. Also, Amelia truly annoyed me and I don’t know what’s up with that. It seems to come from nowhere, really, and the telling Alcide thing was just waaayyy off base. I think Sookie was too nice in her reaction to Amelia, to be honest. There’s no excuse for that.

    And I think something is going on with Sam. I hope we find out soon. He’s up to something that we don’t know about yet. I’m still frustrated with his lack of respect for Sookie’s decisions.

    Freyda–I don’t know where this is headed but I think E/S will find a way, I really do.

    I have a feeling since this book was so Fae heavy that this whole Fae thing will definitely come to a head. Claude clearly has an agenda…and I wonder what is up with Mr. C and the guys chasing him??? There’s a whole LOT going on behind the scenes that we don’t know about yet…regarding Sam, Mr. C, the Fae, and I suspect maybe even Amelia.

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    LKC Reply:

    I am also wondering about the Eric hate coming from Amelia. We haven’t seen it before. Initially she seemed to be ok with Eric and Sookie.
    I am wondering if Bob had anything to do with it because 1) when Sookie first calls Amelia she says that Bob just got in touch with her the week prior 2) She is all now into Bob with not a mention of Trey who was killed only 3 months ago 3) in FDTW during the takeover Victor recognized that Bob was just not any old cat 4) when Bob left Bon Temps he went back to LA to look for his family where he could have run into Victor at any time 5) Who would benefit the most from the bond being broken? 6) It’s not that far fetched to think that Bob would want to get revenge on Amelia, and could do that through Sookie. The only reason I am not totally on board with the Amelia is evil plot is because in all the time they were together Sookie never heard anything from Amelia’s thoughts. But I could also see Copley putting her up to it also!

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    Skarlove Reply:

    That’s an interesting point about Bob….but I don’t think Victor being able to see that he wasn’t your ordinary feline immediately implies a connection. I think any Supe could tell – Calvin noticed too, if memory serves. It is HIGHLY suspicious that in just a few months time they are back together. Amelia truly appeared to care for Trey, and Bob seemed like he couldn’t get out of Dodge fast enough! It seems like a no-brainer that Call-Me-Cope is behind all this, but maybe CH will throw us a curve ball and it will be something less obvious. As far as Amelia’s heavy-duty broadcasts are concerned, maybe she’s better at it than we think? Sookie admits often that unless people are specifically thinking “I’m going to grab a gun from my left pocket and shoot the clerk on aisle #4″……her skills are sometimes rendered useless.

    Perhaps Amelia has been able to put a ward around her brain so she can control what Sookie hears? Couldn’t that other witch that Octavia hooked up with do that? Ummm….Luis, perhaps? Hmmm. If she can keep up the act enough so that the nice/normal thoughts are audible and the crooked ones silent, that would be quite a spell indeed. Plus, I don’t think she had the ability when she first met Sookie back in NO. I think it’s been taught to her since, and she’d need to keep up the “chatty-thoughty-kathy” routine to keep Sookie from getting suspicious.

    (PS – no offense Kathy :) !! I know you like Amelia, and I want her not to be evil for your sake, lol. And so your kitty doesn’t have to learn a new name, lolol. That was too funny! The old saying just went with my point!)

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    Serena Reply:

    Hmm.. I wonder if Amelia’s resentment towards Eric stems from Amelia falsifying her relationship with Bob. Like via a magic spell or a love potion.

    In her email apology to Sookie Ames says something like ‘I just want you to have the kind of happiness in a relationship Bob and I have.” … Eh??? Since when! I could totally see her actions explained by this, if it’s a matter of jealousy of what Sookie has with Eric and her attempts to sabotage are related to her own romantic inadequacies. Sometimes friends are like that, and (albeit sometimes subconsciously) they would rather drag you down into their own misery and drama then see you happy.

    Also just like when they sabotage your diet. :x

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    IATM Reply:

    HAHA, i found that funny & a puzzel as well.. just like Sam saying to Sookie in DITF ” i want you to be happy , but not with Eric”…

    in certian scene’s in DR especially the sex scene that i wasent to pleased with because CH spoiled me with DTTW & DAG we got 2 sex scene’s in the same chapter with E/S & in DR CH only gave us 1.. but Sookie always talks about how HAPPY the Viking makes her.. it doesnt matter if it’s sex or just him being around.. only we reader’s know that though.. & Sookie’s HATER “firends” dont know this nor do they seem to care..

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    Ashley Reply:

    That’s my exact problem with Sam. While Sookie doesn’t care for Jannalyn, she wants Sam to be happy and respects his decision to be with her. While Sam doesn’t do the same for Sookie.

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    IATM Reply:

    i look at Sam as a HATER & a manipulater “shifty Shifter” type.. but Sookie consider’s him her “Best Friend”..

    But Sookie’s p.o.v. of things have been in question to me for a long while anyway IMO.. i feel she put’s her so called lop sided trust in the wrong people ( meaning her so called friends)..

    This is Just a Thought :

    i wonder if Billy was talking about Sookie being his human BB ” that didnt turn out well”???

    i mean didnt we see Sookie in CD “fighting for her man, on some jealoues kick “?? she requested that Eric kill Lorena in CD , she wanted to rescue Bill from Lorena in CD & she lied about having the Database just so she could go save her liar rapist cheating boyfriend..

    when it comes to Eric, Sookie ALWAYS picks cons over pros.. she has always been harder & judgemental on Eric then Bill… so for her to actually “fight” for Eric seems out of charcater for Sookie IMO..

    & as for the bite scene agian i feel that Eric was saying “Fuck you Sookie”… so maybe he is having second thoughts about Sookie as a whole??

    if Billy was talking about Sookie as the BB that didnt go well .. he is talking about the fact that he still pinning over her & wants her & they arent togather anymore.. Sookie was some sort of Renfield of Bill’s IMO & in DR she comes across as weird in the hidey hole scene..

    i know CH said she was having 1 last fling with Bill in DR .. but it almost looked as if CH did it with the expense of making Soiokie look totaly stupid.. even moreso then i typically think of Sookie.. there is nothing wrong with forgiveness, it’s good for her soul to forgive bill, but really, giggling when she’s naked with a hungry vampire in hole? who already Raped Her… ***weird Much*** IMO & the fact that Sookie still acts like a Renfield ..Bill’s Renfield..

    Sam being Judgemental of Eric is **weird much** he is dayting someone who also has pride in who she is & what she is.. Sookie’s conflict in this book is growing tiresome as well.. they all have killed & she has a lopsided view of ethics & Morals & so Does Sam.. they both try to put eachother on some pedestal of “i only do it when this & that is going on..

    in DR Sookie asked Bill “you love me”? after she witnessed him dump Judith.. & Frankly CH has gave Billy more Mature Women then Sookie.. ( Selah P & Judith both dumped Bill).. & they did it classy & maturely & stood their ground.. Sookie does like & crave attention.. she enjoys having Billy constantly telling her he love’s her.. & that also makes my point about ex’s..

    isnt it clever that CH has put Bill with both Selah & Judith & Bill told Sookie that Judith was obessed with him.. & i did not get that from her reaction at all.. nor did i get that from Selah at all.. Judith really understood where Billy was comming from.. so i think he either exgratreated Judith’s affection for him or flat out lied about it.. she ( Judith) said i dont need to be hear if you dont want me too.. all he had to do was tell her to her face.. which was Lame that he felt he couldnt.. Bill is phony as Hell as well & Sookie falls for it all the time..

    HAHA, when Sookie called herself saying to Eric ” i wish you werent involved in all this stuff” she was talking about politics..

    Eric said ” you mean ,you wish i was like Bill”??

    & Sookie thought “Ouch”!! ” No, Bill isnt average either because he has a vampire database… & then she say’s she wish Eric was more like Maxwell..

    & then later in the Fangtasia fight scene.. before the fight Sookie was talking about Maxwell & she says “Maxwell never liked me” or he was never fobd of me”.. & i was like REALLY ?? since when?? because in DAG he was part of the rescue team to get her out of harm.. & why would Sookie want Eric to be like a Man she claims who doesnt like her??? IS that Sookie’s way of saying she wish Eric didnt like her?? ***weird Much*** Sookie is a strange women very odd..

    Sookie is a Moron on so many levels.. **shake head**

    when Sookie said in DR that “when i think of Eric with another women i want to pull his hair out ..in CLUMPS !!

    yet she feels like it’s okay to be naked in a hidey hole with Bill.. & she states when Bill was hugging her she didnt feel like she was cheating on Eric.. & she wished she could have fed Bill **roll eye’s** i think Sookie sends mixed messages to her suiter’s & that is part of the biggest problem why they dont move on IMO.. & she does this with Sam as well.. the last time Sookie tried to hook Sam up was with Luna in LDID.. Sam has tried/ or suggested other men to her ( Calvin, Dermott, i think he is fond of Alcide since he didnt like Quinn..)Sam told Sookie to go see Bill in DITF & he hates Eric for some unknown reason.. yet he doesnt mind going through Sookie to ask Eric for a favor..

    i mean we never heard Sookie say or think ” i wish Eric was like Clancy”… Clancy didnt like Sookie either & he was part of the rescue team in DAG & died because he was ORDERED to fight side by side with Eric.. i’m sure Clancy’s spirit is pissed off..

    & my point about ex’s – is that both Selah & Judith are nothing like Debbie P.. Debbie was jealoues like Sookie on an extreme level.. & CH never wrote Selah stalking Billy or trying to kill Sookie over Bill.. & i dont think Judith will be written that way either.. when it’s over it’s over.. Bill was the one who became “enthralled” with Lorena in CD.. Bill was the one who was obessed with Lorena.. Lorena created Judith so she could get rid of Billy.. Lorena in CD didnt really want Billy back she wanted the Database.. & Bill told Sookie in DTTW that he stayed with Lorena for 80 years & they grew tired of eachother & that was why they broke up.. so Lorena must have created Judith during that 80 year span to get rid of Bill.. & when Lorena called him ( for the database) Bill jumped on it & became “enthralled” with her all over agian.. & the funny thing is – is because Lorena wanted the database she is the one who used the threat to harm Sookie if he didnt comply.. yet Billy did go to her he gave Sookie the database to hold.. & he got tortured because he came to Lorena empty handed ( w/out the Database)..

    IDK, yet what knda vampire Qklahoma is.. but i know she wants the Viking :-) & she is rich & powerful without a man.. & Eric is trying to get out of this situation.. & since Sookie has this C.Dor i wonder if CH will make Sookie use it on Oklahoma?? because it seems so cliche’ Sookie killed Lorena because Sookie went looking for Bill & therefore looking for trouble.. this Oklahoma situation might turn out different..

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    C.K. Reply:

    IATM I said before that I found the hidy hole thing weird. It is like she encourages that behavior. Sookie is honored to be loved by Bill so much. I am sure Eric is insecure about their relationship to maybe thats why he brought up Bill. They don’t have the blood bond anymore so he can sense her emotions. When he asks her what she is thinking she never tells him. I said before can you imagine if Eric would have found them in that hidy hole? I know Eric trusts Sookie but explaining that one. Bill had to have known Judith was listening and didn’t Selah stand outside the door at Andy’s wedding too? Selah indicated that Bill knew she was out there. If it is true that would be the second time that he used Sookie to get rid of another woman. In some ways, Eric is paying for Bill’s mistakes with Sookie. Now Sookie is even more guarded with her feelings. I think that is where a part of her insecurities come from. I was glad Judith left with some shred of dignity. Hope she doesn’t try to kill Sookie.

    Sometimes Sookie is trusting of the wrong people you would think she would learn her lesson by now after getting screwed over for the millionth time. She lets Claude and Dermot move in with her just like that. When she doesn’t even know Dermot well. Also, she new Amelia for a few days and let her come live with her. I don’t think Sookie ever questioned Quinn. She second guesses Eric but is quick to accept other people.

    Sam doesn’t even know half the stuff Eric has done for her. She does put Sam on a pedistal he is not perfect either. Her relationship is none of Sam’s buisness. It seems like he tries to make her feel bad about dating Eric. Tara is supportive of Eric and Sookies relationship and Tara had a bad vampire experience. Also, Sam acts like Sookie is some saint when she isn’t either.

    I was thinking and others have mentioned this that maybe there will be another fae war. It could be the fae vs. vampires. In From Dead to Worse, Eric said there have been fae/vamp wars. I think Claude made some comment about his dislike for vampires in this book. Eric said to Sookie, “And if it came to that again, the first one I’d take out is Niall” (pg 72 FDTW). HM…. I wonder if Eric will end up killing Niall. However, Niall did say Eric was a good man to Sookie so I don’t know why he would say that to her if he wanted to get her away from Eric. Fairies are deceptive so who knows?

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    IATM Reply:

    @ CK,

    i totaly agree with your post.. & Sometimes Sookie is too trusting.. i dont think anyone can be truly happy untill they are happy with themselves ( & Eric is happy with himself).. it comes across as Sookie self loathes herself a little too much & frankly after 11 books one would think this part of her character growth would have changed.. maybe in book 12 CH is heading down that path ?

    & from that scene in DR regarding Maxwell it just seems weird as well.. i mean does Sookie really want Eric to be someone else??

    Ashley Reply:

    I agree C.K….Sookie is easier on everyone that isn’t Eric. Bill, Amelia, Quinn, and Sam like you said. She didn’t know Quinn or who he was or his motivvations at all, but just agreeed to go out with him. Amelia she never questioned either.

    I have to think it’s both because of her trust isssues because of Bill and her childhood and because she’s harder on Eric, just because she’s got a lot to lose with him, and I think she’s trying to protect herself from getting her heart broken. But it doesn’t make it any less frustrating. She needs to acknowledge that he loves her and stop belittling his feelings and realize that she needs to fight for him. Sookie will step up though, IMO. I really think she will realize what needs to be done.

    Sherry Reply:

    Honestly IATM, if you hate Sookie so much, why do you even bother reading the books? It seems to me like you enjoy nothing more than ragging on what an idiot Sookie is, which she isn’t if you delved into some of the subtext of the book. This isn’t a judgement on you so I hope you do take it the wrong way. I’m just curious. I know I wouldn’t invest my time and 11 books in to just constantly rag on a protagonist I can’t stand. I wouldn’t have made it past the first book or two if I didn’t like Sookie.

    I don’t know if we’re allowed to link to other sites here so forgive me if thats not the case but I would highly suggest the following blog for some in depth insight into the Sookie/Eric dynamic.

    http://peppermintyrose.livejournal.com/

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    IATM Reply:

    @ Sherry,

    i read the books for the Eric character.. if CH killed Eric out i wouldnt read the books anymore.. in one of my post i have already mentioned that i was More TEAM ERIC then Sookie..

    if you dont like my post you dont have to respond to me,..

    Skarlove Reply:

    Serena wrote ‘I just want you to have the kind of happiness in a relationship Bob and I have.” … Eh??? Since when!

    This is what’s plaguing me too. They haven’t been together that long or seen half the trials and tribulations S/E have gone through. Amelia does seem a loner type – just moving off to BT w/out a care (though she did have Bob to use as an excuse she may have done it anyway!)………but her statement made no sense! I think there MUST be deeper hands at play – through Octavia and Luis, or even deeper in the NO witch chain – or maybe just Victor. In which case we’ll see how the dice line up now that he’s gone.

    I just can’t trust her. Sookie never advised Amelia on who should be her bedmate, yet with Janalynn’s help she came home to the surprise package of Alcide. WTF???? What friend does this to another, when said friend is still in a committed relationship? They didn’t break up, just severed the bond – Amelia’s not dumb. She just pretended to be.

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    Sherry Reply:

    Maybe bob just spelled her as revenge. She did some sexual experiment spell on him that last for months so maybe this is how he’s getting back at her. With someone kind of love/influence spell. I could be totally wrong but I thought it was really odd that suddenly it’s like Trey never existed.

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    LKC Reply:

    Yep Bob is so suddenly in the picture, like for only a week before Sookie calls. Then they are so happy that Amelia never once thinks of Trey, esp. being back in Bon Temp. It all could be a red herring, but Bob is in there for a reason and I don’t think it’s to show that Amelia has gotten over Trey in only 3 months! I remember reading that CH said every character, every action has to move the plot forward. So what is Bob’s purpose? And it wasn’t to visit those kittens!!!!

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    Krtmd Reply:

    Oh, I like this idea. If someone had turned me into a cat, I don’t think I’d be back for more sex too soon. And he sought Amelia out, and then they’re so happy. I’m suspicious.

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    Holby Reply:

    Or maybe Bob is a much more powerful witch than Amelia. Amelia was still under the supervision of Octavia because she is a new witch…we have no idea about Bob’s history. Yes, he was a dork when the transfigured back to human, but I think anyone might be a little off their game after months as a cat! Additionally, we do know that Carmichael is in bed with Victor…And another thought…Copely can’t get a rein on his daughter directly, but through another witch…maybe he has something to do with Bob’s reappearance. I think old Cope knows a lot more about the supernatural community than we have been told.

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    C.K. Reply:

    Sookie is also emphasizing what a “clear” broadcaster Amelia is so there might be something up with that. Her thoughts are so clear mabye not really like others have said.

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    SacredmOOn Reply:

    I Agree Amelia is not dumb shes just playing like she is. Amelia and Bob are up to something. There 1st goal was to break the bond asap, now with that done they are working on goal #2 Alcide though like that??? What other goals do they have waiting???

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    *C.K. Reply:

    This might sound far fetched but what if it was some fae impersonating Amelia? It is probably not the case but I thought she was acting odd.

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    *C.K. Reply:

    Also, in that “Gift Wrapped” story Sookie mentioned her other suitors but never mentioned Eric which was odd. Now like people have said its like Trey never existed when she cared deeply for him. It could be fae magic.

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    LKC Reply:

    I don’t think anyone is impersonating Amelia because Sookie remarks to herself, again how loud a broadcaster Amelia is, when Amelia is thinking about not liking Eric. I don’t think an “impersonator” could take on also the mental signature if YKWIM.

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    *C.K. Reply:

    Oh I forgot about the broadcaster thing. I need to go back and read it.

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    Holby Reply:

    I agree! Amelia just didn’t seem herself.

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    Sherry Reply:

    I think it would be difficult for someone to impersonate Amelia because she’d be able to tell the mental signature was different.

    I’m starting to wonder now if all the CONSTANT references to Amelia being such a loud broadcaster were really a big red herring and hint hint, not is all what it seems to be with her. As a witch, perhaps the constant stream of loud thoughts are created to cotton over what she really is thinking. It’s odd she’s able to do an ectoplasmic reconstruction -which is supposed to be really difficult magic, along with wards and other things, but somehow cant figure out how to turn bob back from being a cat. All is not right in Amelia land.

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    C.K. Reply:

    Again Sherry I agree that the “loud broadcasting” might be a hint because Sookie brings it up so much. Eric mentioned that Amelia always wanted him gone so I think that could be an important clue that Amelia was always up to something. I really liked Amelia too but oh well.

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    Gretchen Reply:

    Thoughts about Sam:

    Pretty sure that Sam is in love with Sookie. But he has never really had the balls to do anything about his love for her when she was available.

    He has been dating Jannalynn for a while now and seems to be making an effort with the antiquing and all. But Sam takes Sookie to a family wedding, and uses Jannalynn to make Sookie jealous in some ways.

    Sam dislikes the weres, distrusts the fae, hates the vampires. He is constantly giving Sookie shit about Eric. Vampires = dangerous = Eric. But he himself is with a badass who brutally kills people.

    He has knowledge and access to important information about the fae. And when Sookie, who is part of the supernatural community, can definitely keep secrets and is always in trouble, asks for information, he’s all like “blah blah, can’t tell—super secret shifter database, blah.”
    Why wouldn’t he tell her? He cares about her and is her friend. Who might she tell? Eric. What does Sam know about the fae that he wants to keep from Eric?

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    Sherry Reply:

    These are some big clues I think to who Sam owes his allegiance to – himself. He can’t see his own hypothetical self at all. Of all the people who could be counted on to keep secrets, Sookie is at the top of the list. She keeps the entire towns secrets. Unfortunately for her, it seems like no one cares enough or even wants to keep her secrets. As soon as she tells anybody anything, it seems like a whole bunch of people know about it.

    Sam’s shifter database and not giving her at least a little insight with that is like a big flashing neon sign to me. Like I said before though, they’re not called two-natured for nothing.

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    C.K. Reply:

    I am not so sure Sam is even “in love” with Sookie. Sam is “very fond” of her but I don’t know he is in love. He had so many years to ask her out but didn’t show interest (like Sookie said) until someone else did. Say Sam did ask Sookie out all those years ago would she have married Sam because she was in love with him or would she have married him because she didn’t have many other choices? I know that sounds harsh but it might have been the case. Plus the fae were bound to find Sookie eventually so she would have never had a normal life with Sam.

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    LLE Reply:

    I don’t consider Sam in love with Sookie because slept with the maenads that poison Sookie.

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    Sherry Reply:

    Sorry I meant hypocritical not hypothetical. Blah.

    You’re right C.K. if she hadn’t actually met any vamps or none came looking for her, in all probability she would have ended up with Sam but I think it would have been more out of not wanting to be alone rather than love.

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    LLE Reply:

    Sam never ask Sookie out for a date. Sam became interest in Sookie after Bill show up.

    If Sookie had gotten involved with Sam, she would be doing the same thing as Tara.

    Sooner or later, she would had met Eric even if Bill never show up because her brother has thing of getting into trouble.

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    C.K. Reply:

    I don’t know that Sookie would have met Eric because she never would have gone to Fangtasia and Eric had know reason to come to Merlottes. She lived in Bon Temps for years without Eric knowing her. Maybe I guess supes were bound to find out about Sookie eventually. IDK

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    LLE Reply:

    There was a serial killer that were killing women who sleep with vampires and Jason was suspect.

    Sookie would had gone to Fangtasia with Bill or without Bill.

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    C.K. Reply:

    I don’t think she would have ended up with Sam neccesarily. I just said hypothetically if Sam did ask her out all thoses years ago and she said yes and they got married things would not have been all happy because the fae would have still come for her. Sookie was never in love with Sam and if she did end up with him years ago it might have been because he or JB were her only options. Sookie knew that Sam liked her but I don’t think she was interested in him as a “boyfriend”. I don’t think Sookie would have wanted a relationship where she was settling that could another reason she never persued Sam either.

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    Hootiecat1 Reply:

    Viking Dame…
    Amelia was much more aware of Sookie’s feeling about Eric the BB than than it seems…Evidently form DR we see that Amelia not only spoke to Octavia about it but was probably privy to the emails that Octavia got from other older witches?
    We do know that Amelia knew she could break the BB by the death one of the bondees…she was quick to reassure Sookie it was a safe procedure. Amelia answered “As if anything could hurt a vampire that old,” she said. “Honestly Sook, why are you worrying about him…” Amelia is one cold little bitch/witch — she didn’t care that it could emotionally hurt Sookie or Eric, she never even called Eric by his name. When Sookie reminded her that she’d told Amelia that she love Eric, Amelia responded with. “I guess I didn’t want to believe you, you’ll feel better when the bond is dissolved.” One other thing she said was “And you need to be free of him. ” Amelia former BF was Tray, so she knew about the were pack and where to go for Alcied.
    I put Amelia with the Arlene class. Not a friend a user someone to never turn your back on.

    I also noticed that the wards Amelia and Bob put on Sookie’s house are maybe not trustworthy….but as Amelia put it better than ever? What did that mean by better? Amelia seemed so proud of what she did?
    The wording was off…no one could pass the wards if they mean Sookie any harm…but what if they wanted to
    be-spell her or make her forget something?
    Not sure if Bob knows Amelia’s game, he seems doubtful…out on that yet. When Bob read what was on the paper Amelia handed Bob what he was to read during the spell he was frowning? (did Amelia’s spell include any future blood bonding with Eric?)

    Real glad Bellenos changed the wards.

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    VikingsJoy Reply:

    Amelia’s sudden hatred of Eric didn’t sit right with me either. Also, Sam’s constant bashing of Eric was pissing me off. I think this will play out one of two ways: There’s a big bad reveal coming about Eric and Amelia and Sam know about it, therefore don’t want Sookie with Eric OR there’s a big bad reveal coming out about Shifty Sam and Dodgy Amelia. Since Sam and Amelia seem to be on the same side (hating Eric), I’m sticking loyal to the Viking.

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    IATM Reply:

    what bothered me the most about the breakage of the BB is the fact that Sookie had no regard to Eric’s life.. she just trusted Amelia fully & then felt guilty afterwards.. Amelia told her it could kill a bondee or she didnt know if it could.. & Sookie still went for it..

    i mean i know Sookie wanted it broke & she asked Ameila in DITF.. but i mean Sookie didnt even second guess this & Amilea’s track record with messing up spell’s ( turning Bob into a cat & all)..

    i couldnt beleive the disregard Sookie had on Eric’s life in this situation & considering he has protected her fucking life through all the books.. **shake head** i was really disappointed in this in DR.. it really pissed me off.. i love my Viking & maybe i’m a little emotional about how he get’s the shaft so often in the books.. but this totaly lowered my opinion of Sookie.. & i didnt think i could get any lower of what i thought about her..

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    Heather Reply:

    Come to think of it, Amelia didn’t really seem to like Eric that much. Remember, the take over and Victor came to Sookie’s, because he knew Eric would be there? Amelia was really mad at Eric when he came over and said something sarcastic like “Thanks, Eric, for leading them here.” I can’t remember her exact wording. Does anyone else think that Amelia is working for Quinn? Quinn was mysteriously quiet in this book … I think that since Quinn and Amelia were both on QSA’s payroll, they are working together. I think the breaking of the blood bond was for Quinn. I think that Quinn is lurking and I think it is through Amelia. Why else would Amelia go to a shifter bar?

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    C.K. Reply:

    Amelia did like Quinn I think so you never know.

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    Heather Reply:

    No, I never know what is coming … It seems pretty probable to me. Sookie met Amelia right after she met Quinn. Seems to me that is the reason that she went to Quinn when the take over happened. Amelia was like “Help! I am in over my head!!” But Sookie interpreted her thoughts as Quinn seemed like the safest thing in the room. I wonder if Amelia is such a “broadcaster” because she covers the thoughts that could really damage her plans. Thus, leading to louder normal thoughts? Who knows, but I wish that we didn’t have to wait two more years to know everything!

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    Heather Reply:

    The “Help I am in over my head” statement was my own interpretation and was not a quote from the book. Just to clarify :)

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    C.K. Reply:

    Me too Heather, I wish we did not have to wait. When the last book comes out everyone will probably say “where did the time go.”

    I forgot that Amelia also let Quinn in Sookie’s bedroom after the takeover. Sookie woke up and he was in her room. Amelia did that twice to Sookie with Quinn and Alcide. Now that I think about it seemed like Amelia was pulling for Quinn and Sookie. Something is up with Amelia. Also, Eric said she always wanted to get him away from Sookie. Maybe she is starting to show her real self. Amelia can be an Alrene 2 in the making.

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    Mony Reply:

    Oh i didn’t remember that about Quinn!! *O*
    She has a modus operandi or what?? :/
    Yes Eric said she ALWAYS wanted to get him away from Sookie…since when? and what did he know, or suspect that we don’t know yet? …..

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    Krtmd Reply:

    In my re-reads, the Sam and Amelia talking behind Sookie’s back seem more and more likely. CH is trying to lead us to see it. Sookie asks Sam about Bob and the cats, and then the first thing out of Bob’s mouth is to deny the kittens were his. Amelia laughs it off. She broadcasts her thoughts too loudly, maybe in an attempt to conceal what’s underneath. She wants to give Sookie the cluviel dor info., but knows Sook won’t answer her phone. Does she leave a message on the machine saying check ur email? Nope. Amelia calls Sam. Something is up with these two, interfering in Sookie’s life behind her back.

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    C.K. Reply:

    It is worrisome that Amelia knows about the cluviel dor. She doesn’t know Sookie has one but I am sure she can put two and two together. Plus, she knows Sookie is part fae. Some people were saying (sorry I don’t remember who) that Eric might had Pam cosy up to Amelia to find out more about her. I guess Eric always knew but didn’t say anything because he figured that Sookie would defend Amelia. Also, mabye he didn’t want to let Amelia know that he was on to her. It would be dumb of Amelia to tell Pam that she didn’t like Eric though.

    It seems like a lot of people want to get Eric away from Sookie. Evey which direction.

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    Heather Reply:

    Yes, why is Amelia pushing for a shifter/Sookie relationship? What does she have to gain? Her father works for vampires and so did she (QSA). I wonder if she has a real problem with them? It is hard to believe that Amelia lived downstairs from Hadley and didn’t meddle. What did Hadley tell her or what did she find in Hadley’s place that made her think that she has something to gain from Sookie? I wonder if she was pulling for the shifter witches during the witch war and is seeking revenge? I also almost wonder if everyone Sookie knows and trusts are in a conspiracy to take Eric out?! Amelia, Sam, Quinn, Alcide, and the fairies? Now, of course, that could be far fetched, but we have seen a lot of crazy things so far in the series and I wouldn’t doubt anything! I feel that Amelia is working for Quinn and I think this woman has a big mouth and may just tell the wrong people/supes about Sookies antique that her grandmother passed down to her. This will lead more problems Sookie’s way!

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    *C.K. Reply:

    No Ashley it is not just you, I never got the impression that Amelia despised Eric so much. I always thought Amelia was alirght with Eric. In the last book she even told Sookie to quit using the blood bond as an excuse. Also that either Sookie loves Eric or she doesn’t. Now Amelia acts like Sookie never told her that she loved Eric. I used to like Amelia not so much now. Maybe, I just did not pick up on if before.

    Sam really does need to be less judgemental because Sookie is no saint either. It is her life to live as she sees fit.

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  • KCScout

    I think we are going to get the “fairy story” in Book 12 and a “Finally, Altogether Dead” in the last book.

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  • Jennifer

    YAHOO PALACE

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    IATM Reply:

    ooh geesh, i have read posts from folks that consider the fact that Sookie needs an ice pack as a bad thing..

    i mean HELLO, Eric has the G.P. & it wasent the first time Sookie was sore from sexually intercourse with the Viking..

    i guess CH needs to write Sookie getting an ice pack from here on out.. because Sookie wobbling to the shower in DTTW on page 127 chapter 7 wasent looked at as G.P. activity = sore ice pack activity & she enjoyed it **snort** ROTFLMFAO!!

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    Ashley Reply:

    Yeah, because Eric was clearly hurting Sookie. That’s why she was yellling “go hard go go go” and “Cmon Eric!” (said with total sarcasm). I think people create things to pick about, really.

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    IATM Reply:

    Excatly,

    i mean i would love a 6 hour session with the Viking/ or Monkey sex.. :-)

    & the words Sookie used to describe the sex doesnt even allude to foul play..

    she said :

    ” it was Magnificent, it was exhausting, & it was completely excellent” (chapter 9 page 184 DR)..

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    Dee Reply:

    It’s so ridiculous, people just want to hate Eric so they’ll make stuff up. Sookie asked for him to go harder, and she said after how magnificent it was. She was very happy and relaxed after the sex.

    Funny because same people criticizing it now, are the same ones who thought the graveyard rough sex was hott in the book, even though Sookie didn’t ask for that one and she was afraid at times during the sex *rolls eyes*

    Some people like it rough, they need to get over it.

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    WaitingForSunday Reply:

    Oh you guys, now I just want to go back and re-read that part again, again. :)

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    SVB Reply:

    She thought Bill was going to KILL her in that scene! And somehow that was still hot?

    And that’s not even mentioning the potential vaginal infection. Just eew.

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    znb Reply:

    lol!@ashley!! yep eric was cleeearly hurting her *eye roll* wish i had a big blond viking “hurting” me like tht :P

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    Sherry Reply:

    I’ve had to “wobble” to the shower before. It’s not as bad as you think.

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    SVB Reply:

    LIKE :lol:

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    heart's desire Reply:

    Oh, for the love of…!!!

    The problem is they’ve never seen this side of Sook, telling Eric to “Go hard”, shrieking out loud as her head falls back, then riding him for all she was worth. I think she even shocked the ol’ Viking. “Sookie!” he gasped.

    That is simply not how a lady behaves. It was like she couldn’t get enough. What has he done to her? O.O

    She should be fearing he might pound her death, sobbing, collapsing, begging him to “be sweet”… not enjoying it, much less be in control. *eyeroll*

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    LLE Reply:

    Sookie has a choice with Eric what type of sex she wants. Sookie never the choice with Bill and Bill made the decision.

    Sookie likes rough sex when she is in the mood to do it. Sookie had that choice with Bill.

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    IATM Reply:

    ROTFLMFAO !! :-)

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    *C.K. Reply:

    Ha ha ha, you guys crack me up. too funny!

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    znb Reply:

    LMFAO!!! What has he done to her indeed…and would he like to do it to the rest of us “ladies” hahaha!!

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    kejrol Reply:

    I loughed after I read this scene because I’ve started wondering if Bill saw them since he likes to lurk in Sookies woods and it just made me lough so hard. Take that Bill Compton :D

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    Dead affection Reply:

    You are all so firetrucking funny!!!

    I can’t believe I just found this site.
    long time reader of the books, but I never need to find anyone else who loves an understands the books because I’ve always got what I needed from them, but dead reckoning has messed with my head big time.

    This site has helped answer a lot of my questions and has me asking a lot more.

    Thankyou!

    Keep writing love it all.

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    SVB Reply:

    Welcome! I’m sure you’ll find lots of like minds here ;)

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  • AlphaEN

    Hello, there,
    my first comment on the thread, I read all your great comments, and here is my question. After Sookie broke the BB (the fact that she didn’t discuss it with Eric first and made a decision for both of them just goes to show that she is not that different from the Viking – high-handed), he came over and told her he should have offered her to sever the blood tie. But he also told her that it was the BB that had given her the best protection in his world in the first place. Then why would he think to offer her to destroy that connection at all? Could it be that he was sincere and more “human” or understanding of Sookie? Or was he placating her? His words did not make much sense to me. What do you guys think?

    And, also, I have to confess that after reading DR, I got really upset that yet again, E&S got interrupted constantly when she was trying to really talk to him. The last paragraph left me in “huh?”: she is not sure if the phone will ring, she is not sure if she wants it to ring, she is not sure if she doesn’t… seems like a lot of “not sure”s there.

    Thanks,
    AlphaEN

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    LLE Reply:

    Sookie is so afraid that Eric will dump her and marry the Queen. Sookie has very low-esteem. Sookie has habit of putting her head in the sand and bury it.

    I hope Sookie not listen to Bill’s advice about letting Eric make the decision. Sookie and Eric have to talk and make a plan what to do to get out of it.

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    *C.K. Reply:

    Really, Eric and Sookie are kind of cut from the same cloth. Sookie conveys to Eric how different they are but at the same time she is a lot like him. They both have edifices built to protect their emotions. They do know each other so well and yet they have misunderstandings. Niether of them likes to be vulnerable. Eric is not completely confident in their relationship either. He needs validation too. It seemed like Sookie told everyone else that she loved Eric before she even told him.

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    *C.K. Reply:

    P.S. Sookie’s relationship with Bill and how that ended is part of the reason Sookie is so guarded. She is afraid of getting hurt yet again. A lot of men have betrayed her. Uncle Bartlette, Bill, Alcide, Quinn, Niall even though she does not know it, and Eric does keep things from her too etc…

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    daisy Reply:

    I agree with you. Sookie is indecisive sometimes and those are just one of the things that may get her into trouble. I also am a little disapointed that sookie lets important conversations slip by, then afterward she forgets to bring it back up.

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  • Eric is hot

    Now that it was said, why do you think Bob looked at the spell funny? Did she do more to them then break the bond?

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    *C.K. Reply:

    You know what was even scarier was when Amelia said, “It all took time, and there were some dead ends, but eventually I came up with a spell that doesn’t end in the death of one of the ….bondees” (pg,176-177). If I was Sookie, I would have been worrying more that something would go wrong with the spell. Amelia has botched spells before aka Bob. I know she is a part of the coven now and learning more but still. Plus, Eric was already meessed up due to witchcraft once. I do not think that Eric is not big on witchcraft.

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    *C.K. Reply:

    *typo* should be “I don’t think that Eric is big on witchcraft”

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    Sherry Reply:

    I’m trying to remember where else Amelia’s spells went wrong aside from Bob. She did ectoplasmic reconstructions well, she’s done wards well. Someone tell me where she screwed up something else because I don’t remember.

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    Holby Reply:

    It’s not that she has screwed up so much, but that she casts spells without completely thinking through the possible results. Amelia is impulsive to an extreme. She placed a stasis spell on the apartment, cleaned out the garbage, but didn’t think to just have a look around before she locked up. Didn’t think the garbage should have been watched/saved/spelled (sorry, talking about DD). She cast a spell on Bobby Burnham that just caused him to hate Sookie more. There is a reason she is assigned a mentor. Even if every spell she cast was perfect, prefacing any spell on my and mine with “it took a long time to find one that didn’t kill one of the bondees” would have been a HUGE red flag…and the fact that she really ran a bum’s rush (though Sookie did take the lead in that) on casting the spell.

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    Sherry Reply:

    Right! Thanks for that. I forgot about the Bobby thing completely.

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  • AlphaEN

    Agree, LLE, her issues with self-esteem were very clear in #10, right before Appius showed up. She was braiding Eric’s hair and told him he looked great and thougth/said to herself “then what are you doing with me?…”
    But do you think Eric was sincere when he said he should have offered her to sever the BB?

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    Holby Reply:

    And don’t forget the Fangtasia scene in DAG when she projects her own insecurity onto the shy, homely girl who asks for Eric’s autograph. I think Sookie’s fantasy is so telling about her own feeling of inadequacy: Eric’s attention to the girl would “make every man in the bar wonder what the vampire saw in her that they couldn’t see. Suddenly the plain girl would be overwhelmed with attention from the men who’d witnessed the interchange. Her friends would give her respect because Eric had. Her life would change.” Sookie has to develop a sense of her own worth, which has been stunted by years of ridicule from human men (and women) and realize that she IS Eric’s equal, both in personality and physical appeal.

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    C.K. Reply:

    Sookies probably always going to feel a little bit like that when she is with Eric. Especially, if she starts aging and of course he doesn’t. I think Eric might interpret Sookies reactions as her not thinking that he is good enough for her. Like her calling him her boyfriend instead of husband. There have been times when Sookie told Eric not to call her his wife. When she doesn’t feel worthy of him. IDK if that makes sense.

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  • *C.K.

    I would like to know what Eric’s reaction was to Sookie going to that out of state wedding with Sam. I am interested in reading that when the companion book comes out now September. I wonder if somehow Sookie did not tell Eric about the trip. If she was gone a day or two it is possible. She and Eric do not see each other every night. I guess he would know because of the blood bond. I cannot see Eric being okay with her going to Texas. Plus Sam has the hots for Sookie. Pam would put her two cents in too. Especially, with all the Victor stuff.

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    Sherry Reply:

    I think Eric trusts Sookie well enough that he knows she would never do anything with another man. And he knows she has only ever seen Sam as a friend. Also going into Stan’s territory they are safe.

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    IATM Reply:

    Right C.K.

    since the Compaion Book is talked about in past tense in DR.. that might be why Pam said what she said as well?? i mean Pam might be like DANM, your wife is travelling out of state with other men, living with other men, shopping with other men, sleeping with other men.. & she totaly disrespects the marriage & has no regards to you… yetm Sookie is clinging to the title as wife around other Supes..

    it doesnt look right indeed…

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    *C.K. Reply:

    Also, I think Sookie told Sam that she would go with him to the wedding and didn’t even say that she has to talk to Eric first. I think she should be able to make her own descions but she is in a relationship. I need to go back and re-read that part in DITF. Going off with some other man doesn’t look good even though they are just friends and she wouldn’t cheat on Eric.

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    *C.K. Reply:

    P.S so like someone else mentioned that is probably what Pam meant when she said “What kind of husband are you?” that Eric needs to step up and tell Sookie that it is not okay that she is living with her fae relatives (if they were human that would be fine). Also, that Sookie needs to act more like wife and consider Eric’s feelings.

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    *C.K. Reply:

    Soory another thing is that that reflects poorly on Eric in the supe community that he allows his human wife to live with other men. Even though we know that it is platonic on her part. Again it doesn’t look good to others and humans are seen as inferior to vamps.

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    IATM Reply:

    i think it reflects poorly on Eric in the Supe community as well.. & it reflects poorly on Sookie.. she has a total lack of regard & respect for Eric & the relationship IMO..

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    LLE Reply:

    It’s none of Supe world business whom Sookie has living at her home. Sookie so far loves herself more than she loves Eric. Sookie loves Eric but she thinks of her first than Eric.

    Why does Eric put up with that? Eric should do what Rhet Buttler did and walk out on her. Sookie than has to decided is Eric worth fighting for just go find other guy who worship her like Bill does. Bill stalks her and she feels safe by that.

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    IATM Reply:

    Right Billy the Stalker Sookie feels safe by.. & she claims that Eric scares her..**shake head** Sookie has alwyas had a lopsided persepective of ethics & Morlas.. but her views on “saftey” & “protection” has always been so out too lunch IMO..

    i dont get why Sookie consider’s Stalking safe & protection…but she is weird like that..

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    LLE Reply:

    Stalking scares me and I would not feel safe but Sookie does. Sookie not very bright at all.

    Stalkers always harms their victims and hoping Sookie will read a book about abusive ex-boyfriends that stalk.

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    cw Reply:

    I know…she giggles in bill’s hidey hole when seconds before she is scared when bill start feeling her. This is the first time in her book that CH mentioned the trunk incident after CD and how still affected she is by that incident but not scared of the very person who inflict that pain on her. She is weird. Of course, it’s good for her soul to forgive bill, but really, giggling when she’s naked with a hungry vampire in hole? She was so sad because she can’t feed bill, I’ve never heard her mentioned that she is sad when eric is injured and she just flat out refuse to feed him(except the mickey incident). Honestly CH wrote Sookie being inconsistent in her stand. One person doing that is ok but the other person, OH NO it’s horrible. I’m on Team Eric more than Team Sookie the more I read these book. Maybe it’s better for Eric to move on. I don’t know why she said Eric hurt her emotionally, when Ocella is the one who arrange the marriage? How is that Eric’s fault? Phew! Rant over.

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    IATM Reply:

    i totaly agree CW,

    i’m more team Eric then teamn Sookie as well.. Sookie is a weird girl to me on so many levels.. she trust her rapist to be naked in his hidey hole with him.. she views him stalking her as protection.. she claims she felt bad when she couldnt feed Billy.. **shake head** i totaly think it’s better for Eric to move ON.. Sookie having the ball in her court really bother’s me as well at times.. considering she has the lop sided view on things.. if Sookie is “Happy” with Sam then she needs to move on to Sam & just stop wasting Eric’s time IMO..

    CH has a track record with Sookie’s relationships.. Bill/ Sookie dated till DUD -LDID & CD was the break up book.. Sookie & Quinn dated from DD -ATD & FDTW was the break up book.. so now Sookie & Eric are dating from DITF -DR & i have a feeling that book 12 will be the break up book.. then we will have the final book 13..

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    *C.K. Reply:

    Also, Sookie really needed to get in the hole naked? She could not have some clothes on and its like she encouraged Bill’s behavior by laughing about it. IDK. Eric is supposed to be the high handed one.

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    IATM Reply:

    Sometime’s i get the imperssion that Sookie simply enjoys all the male attention she get’s no matter if she wants you are not.. i mean i didnt find that scene funny at all ( Sookie naked in Bill’s hidey hole with a naked rapist)… i was thinking what a Moron **shake head**

    Sookie is a flirt though.. & i really want to know Eric’s reaction to her traveling with Sam out of state.. in DITF she agreed to go w/out talking to Eric or even telling him.. i bet she told him at the last min. when it was time for her & Sam to go..

    she really doesnt know how to be a girlfriend or a wife.. & sometimes i would perfer Eric to not want her.. but alas, our Viking loves Sookie Stackhouse.. & i think she had it comming to her with the bite scene in DR.. so if she does break up with Eric in book 12 i will feel vindicated that at least he bit the girl hard.. because sometimes Sookie really get’s on my last nerves.. i agree with whom ever said or posted that Eric did the Rhett Buttler move “Frankly My Dear ,I Dont Give A Damn”…

    cw Reply:

    This scene makes me scratch my head. IF she have enough time to think to take her clothes off, why didn’t she thnk to lock the door and then call the police. Surely Billy boy have a phone and the Sheriff already warn her about Sandra. Why didn’t she call the police and say there is someone after her, she’s holed up at bill place and could they please send someone over. The sound of a siren should be enough to make Kelvin and Hob run away. I thought Sookie is smarter than that. This doesn’t sound smart at all. I mean I understand she’s scared shitless but taking time to strip so there’s no trail? Surely to best is to lock the door, wedge it with a chair, look for phone, call sam, the police or Jason then hide. Stripping? really. Maybe i”m a prude, but I don’t think that is a normal reaction. Even if she strip, she doesn’t have to climb in with Bill. I feel that CH just throw this bone at BL’s to placate them. To add to the non existent sexual tension(*roll eyes*). It seems like CH doesn’t respect us readers and think we should just accept it however stupid it sounds like because it’s her story, she writes how she wants to write it. She absolutely didn’t have to write it this way if she wants to show that Sookie doesn’t have any sexual feeling towards Bill anymore. I may sound like one of those readers that scold CH that she wrote her book wrong but all I want is something believable that I can accept as making sense coming from “smart sookie”. i can excuse her retelling events from past book to brief new readers, eg.the Debbie story. Maybe I view it as betrayal to eric( she thought about that when Bill hug her after he dump Judith), why not these. I mean she didn’t protest either when bill roll over on top of her and she wants to pull Erics hair by the clump when she thinks of Eric with other woman. Double standard much? It’s like what TB Eric said, he question her intelligence when she insist they go to Jackson to rescue bill right now, even though it’s almost dawn.

    Millarca Reply:

    I think that was a very strange scene. I have no idea why she had to take her underclothes off, or why she didn’t lock the door and call the police. I don’t know why she thought it was a good idea to get into Bill’s hidey hole with him naked. I don’t understand it at all.

    C.K. Reply:

    IATM I agree it just makes no sense. She knows Bill wants her. Can you imagine if Eric walked in on that what it looked like? Wasn’t he on top of her too? He and Pam were heading to her house that night. I was wondering if Eric and Pam would find them.

    Yes, I am sure she didn’t tell Eric about the wedding until last minute. She knew he wouldn’t be happy. Even if he trusts her, she still went off with another man and people at the wedding thought she was Sam’s girlfriend. Again, public persona is important in the supe world so that looks bad for Eric. It shouldn’t matter what others think but in the vamp world it does matter. Eric was getting sick of her belittling their marriage. Although, he did trick her into the marriage but it saved her hiny.

    IATM Reply:

    right striping so there is no trail.. yet what about foot prints since it was raining?? it was a stupid scene full of filler’s IMO.. i mean raining outside & she strips her clothes off & runs into Bill’s house & goes into his hidey Hole naked.. as if the foot prints wouldnt show where she went…

    her attacker’s must be idoits as well to not see the foot prints..

    LLE Reply:

    The only reason CH wrote that to tell the readers that Sookie does not want Bill. Another thing is to make the Bill’s fans happy about and believing that Sookie loves Bill and Bill loves Sookie. If someone was chasing me, I would had gone in Bill’s bedroom and crab robe, and then go hiding.

    In the most of the books, Sookie never knew where Bill would be sleeping and she not want to know. This is not about the story it’s all about the plot that Sookie not into Bill but does not want Bill to be happy with someone else.

    IATM Reply:

    i understand LLE,

    i just felt that CH wrote that scene at the expense of Sookie..

    i mean a rainy day & she is stripping clothes off during the scene to make it to Bill’s house & she strips Naked.. so not only foot prints, but we have drips from the body that would make the floor as a trail.. & since she was running through the woods i’m sure it was muddy..

    so it was a silly scene w/out humor IMO.. i mean the chaser’s missed all the clues to Bill’s hidey hole ( Not Bill’s house)… they made it to his house because Sookie didnt lock the door after she entered it.. nor did she call the police or anything Logical “Human logic”..

    Holby Reply:

    IATM; I agree that Sookie relishes male attention. She is developmentally delayed when it comes to relationships and she is reacting as a “normal” middle schooler would to boys. It takes all of adolescence to learn to navigate the mine field that is relationship…to understand your own self-worth and recognize and reject the abusive assholes in favor of the stand-up guy. She’s getting there, though. I have faith in her.

    daisy Reply:

    I think the reason why CH wrote the naked scene of bill/sookie was just to fill in the pages. Give the readers some hope that sookie is still interested in bill, but to me it was stupid.

    *C.K. Reply:

    You know what when Eric and Sookie were having sex on the porch, I was thinking Bill id probably in the woods watching them. Thats why I was hoping they would go inside.

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    IATM Reply:

    LOL, that is totaly Billy’s M.O. STALKING & watching Sookie fuck Eric.. :-)

    remember in DAG when Sookie & Eric were in her house having sex & when Eric left Sookie say’s she can feel Bill outside & she should be mad but she knows he was just “protecting her”… i was like REALLY?? it’s called STALKING Sookie **roll eye’s**

    this is another thing also.. so did the BB only break with Eric?? can Sookie still feel Billy like she claimed she can feel him in DAG?? otherwise Sookie only broke her bond to Eric but what about Billy?? i know Sookie & Bill didnt have a a strong blood bond or anything.. but Sookie did say in DAG that she could “feel ” Bill outside her house.. so that was some type of blood bond she has with him.. i got the imperssion in DR that CH only broke the bond to Eric..or rather Amelia only broke the bond to Eric.. is this suppose to be significant for some reason other then the fact that CH wanted us to know Sookie loves Eric w/out the BB??

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    *C.K. Reply:

    Good question IATM, I do not know. I thought that if the special bond was broken that Eric would still have the intial bond where he could feel her. That is not the case though. If she drinks Eric’s blood once he can feel her again to some extent couldn’t he? It wouldn’t be the special bond but he could feel her emotions right? I don’t know about the Bill bond but even after so long he can still feel her. IDK

    The Dead and Gone scene is what made me think Oh Bill’s prob watching. Sookie’s a grown woman and Eric is her husband so she shouldn’t have to feel bad about sleeping with him and she didn’t. Also, he probably purposly stepped into the clearing so she could see him in Dead and Gone.

    IATM Reply:

    yea i think if Sookie tasted his blood he could feel her agian to some extent.. but in DITF & DR Sookie didnt taste his blood.. & Eric only tasted her once during that bite scene.. he didnt taste her during the sex scene..

    i think Sookie takes Eric for granted…

    KCScout Reply:

    I think the Bill-Sookie tie was broken with his transfusions in DITF. That explains her lack of concern and the fact he wasn’t there for the Appius face-off when you know, according to the BL’s, Bill has *always* been there for her. Not.

    *C.K. Reply:

    IATM I agree that Sookie takes Eric for granted. People can only put up with so much. Eric does have his faults too though.

    LLE Reply:

    Bill is probably calling the Queen or Felip saying we hurry up the plan to break up Sookie and Eric so I can controlled her.

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    Heather Reply:

    Maybe that was Sookies way of telling Bill what she really feels the same way he told Judith! LOL!

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  • VikingsJoy

    Ok, last thought for the evening…
    I noticed that when Sookie was talking to Alcide on pg. 206 she thinks,”Alcide left without another word. He hadn’t been listening until I’d said the same thing in several different ways. Maybe that was key? Saying things three times?”
    Then on pg. 273, in Mr. Cataliades note he says about the cluviel dor, “Think once, and twice, and three times before you expend its energy.”
    I’m going way out on a limb here, but maybe she has to say or think her wish 3 times or 3 different ways in order for the thing to open and work.
    I also thought she might use it to reestablish the blood bond…The number 3 was key with that as well.

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  • Alicia

    The “monkey sex” is the funniest scene yet and the fact that her cousin and uncle were smelling the porch afterwards priceless!!!

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  • Faithanne

    Sorry if this has already been covered but if Mr Cataliades is a telepath, why did Queen Sophie-Ann need Sookie around and was prepared to pay her a lot of money, if QSA already had a telepath on her payroll?

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    SVB Reply:

    We don’t think QSA knew Mr.C was a telepath.

    As a lawyer, that would probably be a rather handy skill to keep firmly under one’s hat ;)

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    LKC Reply:

    I wonder if Mr. C could hear the vamps. In DD when he is in the car with Sookie and Bill he looks at Bill and says something which made me think he knew about the mission. But in retrospect could he have heard Bill’s thoughts? I’ll have to go reread that part.

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    *C.K. Reply:

    Very interesting LKC, Mr.C powers would probably be more powerful than the people he gives it out too. hm….. This would be something.

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  • eddy

    Hi,
    New contributer, but have read the very apt comments for ages, they have cleared a lot of confusing points for me ,thanks.
    My first joy on getting DR through Amazon was the cover, No Liza Desimini over here,but best no bunch of actors who arn’t in the book!
    I felt that this book was written for the true long time fans, very few repetitive explainations of who everyone are, no way you could just pick this up and read it out of context.
    I think the cluvial dor is the Key now.
    at the beginning of DITF C wanted to live with Sookie but also wanted to help clear out the attic!!.
    Obviously C knows about the CD and wants it.
    D and C want to live in the house could be bcause of the CD bringing them some sort of comfort.
    The CD hold the power to grant the ultimate wish, and can bestow both life and death.
    Who does Sookie want to be human and live with her HEA, !!!
    A great read ,am starting again straight away , some parts a bit confusing , I thought S told B about E marrying another, then nearer the end S told him E was given to Q OK and B seemed surprised.

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    SVB Reply:

    Welcome eddy :)

    That’s a good point about the lack of repetitive explanations in this book.

    I usually just skim over those now but it’s nice to see that CH or her editors finally deem them unnecessary now…after 11 books :lol:

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    *C.K. Reply:

    Eddy I remember that too, Bill asked Sookie what Eric did to her and I thought she told him about the Queen. Then, at the end Sookie explained it to Bill like he never heard it before.

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    Viking1 Reply:

    The first time she “condensed the situation into a few sentences.” I don’t think she actually explained about the QofOk, just probably said Eric’s maker had signed him over. Although,Bill is a little thick and manipulative, he could just be playing dumb on purpose.

    On a side note, does anyone else find it out that Claude is 100% self centered but for some reason gets along well with Hunter? Obviously with the essential spark fairies would be attracted to him, but I think you guys are right about the fairy breeding part.

    Also, in favor of the bond between E/S, because everytime Sookie’s been able to read vampires (with the exception of the ATD QSA trial), she’s been able to read Eric’s mind. There must be something there if her powers are connecting with Eric only. Wonder if CH will ever explain that one…

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    Dee Reply:

    CH answered this on her board, she said it was just random that she read Eric’s mind. She also had read Stan’s mind.

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  • Mamikins

    I just don’t know what to think of this book. I just can’t see Sookie ending up with Sam. Sam, in my opinion, is a very weak character. He has never really made any strong/important impression on me. I feel a bit depressed about how the things unfolded in this book, since it makes me feel like Eric and Sookie are not going to be together much longer. If Sookie ended up with Sam or any other person other than Eric, I would be screaming my head off out of frustration. What was the point of all those chasing that Eric did from the book 2??? It would just make no freaking sense to me at all. Sigh.

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    Ashley Reply:

    Sam doesn’t deserve Sookie. He’s never made an effort with Sookie. And the thing is, Sookie doesn’t feel about him like he feels about her. She loves him…but it’s a platonic love, that’s for sure. At least that’s how I see it.

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    SacredmOOn Reply:

    True, True and So True I agree with you :)

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  • chris W

    Happy Mother’s day the all Eric and sookie lovers. Sorry to highjack the thread SVB.

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  • Hootiecat1

    I WANT TO BE PAM AND KNOCK ERIC’S AND SOOKIE’S HEADS TOGETHER….

    Sookie is so stubborn she won’t ask Eric about what a vampire marriage is…because he tricked her.
    Eric won’t tell Sookie what a vampire marriage is until she wants to know…

    They’re both idiots. Hurting each other and themselves.
    Sookie says Eric is too Vampire, Eric says Sookie is Human.
    I adore Eric, he’s been kind and patient with Sookie. I don’t blame him for being upset with her, she says she loves him but fails to see how very much he loves her and doesn’t trust him.

    My biggest problem with Eric is that he thinks of Sookie as HUMAN….SHE IS NOT AND NEVER HAS BEEN HUMAN.

    Sookie is beginning to see that she’s really isn’t human, and now with all she’s been told, she realizes she never has been, because of her birth never had a chance to be human. She never fit in the human world.

    Eric knew that Sookie was the love of his life when he was AE. When the witches cursed him he was running down the road to Sookie’s house. Eric spent books trying to prove he didn’t care for her, and then waiting out Sookie’s other men. He was already in love with Sookie when he found out what the witches curse entailed…then started pursuing the love of his life. But terrified that she wouldn’t love him back.

    Sookie’s low self esteem has been a lifetime investment of never fitting in. Her family viewed her as freak, known as crazy Sookie, molested, betrayed, raped. It would be pretty hard to believe in anyone and now she’s 28 and finding out that even the precious little family connection she had with her grandmother is being ripped away by truth’s she’s a product of. Eric needs to step up and be the love of her life…Sookie needs to allow him to do that.

    Sorry for the rant…

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    C.K. Reply:

    It’s fine Hootiecat1 there have been a lot of rants. Pam needs to sit them down for a therapy session and they need to put all their sh** on the table.
    I think they have so many misunderstandings because they are a lot alike. Both of them are stubborn.

    I don’t think Sookie would have gone out with Quinn if Eric hadn’t been ignoring/avoiding her. However, Eric needed to remember his time at Sookies house before he could realize what they had.

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  • IATM

    i guess i’m so use to Sookie ALWAYS picking the cons of Eric over the pros that it would be a nice switch or change if she actually does try to put up a fight to keep Eric..

    i mean seriously in the bite scene Eric was totaly saying ” Fuck you”.. & then “Tomorrow”… so maybe he is growing tired of Sookie’s bull shit i wonder ?? & frankly i cant blame him.. **raises cup to the Viking** :-)

    i wonder in book 12 how long it will be stated that it’s been since Sookie & Eric talked to eachother???

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    C.K. Reply:

    Since it does seem like Sookie takes Eric for granted it will be nice to see her fight for him but maybe she will listen to Bill.

    I am a little worried about that Cluvial dor. Sookie has recieved sereval warning s about it. Also, she jokingly called it her “precious”. It does seem like she is becoming a little attached to it. We all know Sookie can act without thinking sometimes. She could use the cluvial dor in a moment of panic. I can see her using it and it backfiring on her. Like “be careful what you wish for.” Sookie probably won’t even tell Eric about it just like she doesn’t tell him about Hunter’s ability. Sometiems she doesn’t give Eric enough credit. She is afraid Eric would do something to Hunter and Idoubt he would. Just like Sookie was afraid Eric would have power over her if she told him about Debbie. When he found out, he never used it against her.

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    Estrella Reply:

    the Hunter thing bugs me too. she’s so freaking stubborn, i swear

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    Joanne Reply:

    I have always thought Soookie never trusted Eric enough that she thought it was weak.Yet in the book you find that Eric has know of her from a far for such a long time that he feel in love with her complexities.

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    IATM Reply:

    The only thing Right at the moment that comes to mind about the Cluvial dor is that Sookie might end up using it for Oklahoma… but that seems so Cliche to me also.. i mean we have already seen Sookie kill a women over a man ( Lorena).. but under the circumstances Sookie put herself in that situation to ( looking for trouble) & when you go searching for trouble it will find you..

    in Eric’s situation he already told her he is trying to get out of it.. so IDK…

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  • Estrella

    Initial, complete knee-jerk reactions:

    1. y’all need to FLEE to some remote corner of sweden ASAP!

    2. If Eric goes ahead and deposes Felipe and assumes kingship, can he trade Nevadato Oklahoma in exchange for letting him the hell out of the contract? and will that be enough for Sook to realize her value to him?

    3. if he does go to Oklahoma, Sookie probably needs to get the hell out of Dodge anyway, as she’ll be almost totally unprotected.

    4. If Eric Goes to Oklahoma, with plans to get rid of her, he’ll never be able to pull it off without going on trial and losing, since his foced divorce would be a matter of public record…and he’d lose all sorts of ground with the vamps for risking all that a human.

    ugh. overall, DR was a really solid book! there was so much more in it than i expected, and the insight into the past is great. I’m a little disturbed over finding that Eric was watching over Sook before he even knew her? the stuff with poor terry, and that he actually set up the meet with Niall? i’m surprised she didnt question him more on that front. i’m surprised she didnt question who was more duplicitous in trying to get with her between Eric and Bill. hmmm

    The CD worries me a bit. I think she is realizing that her single “wish” will need to be carefully thought out and worded…and even then, who knows?

    something i cant put my finger on with Dermot…he overall seems caring, but i dunno. at least she finally got to the point where she realizes she CANT trust any of those damned Fae.

    Fucking fairies.

    I think the next book will hopefully address the misgiving she expressed at the end of DR…her worth. I do think her Fae-ness will play a huge part in this. I’m thinking something will be bestowed upon her that she doesnt necessarily want, but will hopefully realize that it is something due to her that will give her an advantage. I hope to see she and Eric being more honest with eachother, and not so fucking obstinate.

    on a final note, the single sex scene. not just raunchy, but really carefully crafted, if you ask me. Sookie seemed intent on punishing herself just a little, and letting him be angry with her in the most constructive way possible. It proved their intensity was still there, their chemistry. In the end she was content to have an aching proof that she paid the price for her act, and proved to herself that she actually did love him all by herself. I think he was on the same page. they also found that they knew eachother as well as any couple could know eachother and could read eachother in a normal way.

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    C.K. Reply:

    I guess Eric introducing Sookie to Niall could come back to haunt both of them.

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    Sherry Reply:

    I think it really already has and he’s regretted it since finding out about Murry. But at the same time, I don’t think that by not having Eric do the introduction it would have deterred Niall. He would have found another way. Through Claudine, perhaps, since Sookie was already acquainted with her.

    I am a firm believer though in that Eric and Niall started seeing Terry at different times. It’s in the wording of the sentence. It’s subtle but it’s there.

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    C.K. Reply:

    Hi Sherry, I forget who Murry is?

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    LLE Reply:

    Murry is the fairy that tried to kill Sookie in book nine and Sookie spray lemon juice on him.

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    C.K. Reply:

    Thanks LLE I never remember his name.

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    SacredmOOn Reply:

    No Sookie used her grandmothers iron trowell to kill Murry in DAG. When she was out side gardening.

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    Joanne Reply:

    Hey Estrella,
    But if he becomes King without marrying and kills Filipe he could have Sookie as his wife. Would she then give Eric Free Will using the CD?

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    Sherry Reply:

    If Eric became a regent and had enough loyal supporters now that Victor’s dead, he could technically seize LA if he wanted to. Felipe is an absentee king. He pushed Victor out of Nevada in order to placate him but that didn’t work. He has plenty of work to do with Nevada and Arkansas, there aren’t enough vamps to reclaim LA if Eric lays low and gains support over time. Felipe can’t do anything without more support, which he doesn’t have.

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  • Joanne

    On the CD again…If Sookie changed the past there could be serious repercussion. But if the said Hunter will have a shield around him to protect him that would be another use.

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  • MuySangre

    Been lerking in shadows too long ladies…I am in awe of the foresight/intelligence of
    many here. (Hat’s off to you, SVB) Going on record to say I am afraid that CH will marry Sookie & Sam, & they will raise Hunter for unforeseen circumstances. Sookie does not want to accept herself as she is, she will never be truly happy living the life that excites her vs. the way she was raised to believe was right. (“This is what I should be doing” – paraphrase @ Tara’s shower) If CH unites Sookie/Eric in HEA, my imagination will be eternally grateful. But my conscience will be again reminded of the eternal truth that what we want most is usually what we are forced to sacrifice for our own happiness. -hoping to be proved wrong-see you next May…

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    C.K. Reply:

    There is a difference between what Sookie thinks that she should want verses what she really wants. I think Sookie wants Eric but he does not fit into that idealized image of prince charming. I guess Sookie thinks she should want certain things because it is considered “normal”. This books was starting to shatter some of those ideals. At the begining of the book Sookie makes a comment on the “white wedding dress” symbolizing purity when that is not the case now a days. Sookies image of her Gran is blown to shreds even more in this book. Sookie used to idealize her Gran and say “What would Gran think or what would Gran do?”. Now Sookie cannot really rely on “Gran’s moral code”. Gran’s letter can be used as a lesson for Sookie to not make the same mistakes. Gran said that she thought having children would make everything “perfect”. Then, Gran realized that it didn’t fix all her problems. Sookie is feeling more like a stranger in the human world and that she is pretending to be “normal”. Sookie has to make a choice fight or flight. It would be sad if Sookie had to give up her chance at happiness and what she really does want (hopefully Eric).

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    IATM Reply:

    i really think since CH wrote Eric the one that typically makes Sookie happy.. but Sookie has to make Sookie happy as well..

    whatever that means IDK yet.. i think becomming a business partner with Sam will make Sookie happy.. she sure didnt like that Merlotte’s was struggling.. i do agree with whomever suggested that we might have a Fae vs. Vampire war comming up..

    Niall did offer to kill Eric in FDTW in the scene when Sookie & Niall were at the resturant ( to break the BB) so now since the BB is broke IDK if Niall would still offer or not??.. & Eric suggested that he would kill Niall.. heck, even Quinn offered to kill Eric for Sookie in ATD..

    i’m just curious how Eric will become King if that is CH’s plan …

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    C.K. Reply:

    Oh that right IATM, I forgot that Nial offered to kill Eric to break the blood bond. At that point he knew Eric and was still so quick to want to kill him. That is one of the reason I did not like Quinn because he always wanted to kill Eric. Maybe they wanted to break the bond so they could try to kill Eric.

    In Dead and Gone Quinn said, “Eric loves his little piece of Louisiana more than he’ll ever love you” (pg 163). I always thought there was a reason those lines were used. I think this Freyda situation is presented to refute Quinns words. Hopefully one day if Sookie sees Quinn again, she will be able to tell him “You couln’t have been more wrong about Eric.”

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    IATM Reply:

    Excatly CK,

    at that point in FDTW Eric & Niall & Eric & Quinn seemed to know each other.. in DD Quinn & Eric seemed to have a history..

    unless Sam with his new found info /Libearay & shifter info has the 411 on Eric Sam just simply comes across as a dude that doesnt like Eric because he is Eric..

    at least Niall had a good reason to try & kill Eric & Eric had a good reason in FDTW to want to kill Niall.. & Quinn in ATD had a jealous reason to want to kill Eric it appeared.. but who knows with the Compaion Book comming out.. & Quinn will make an apperance in that book..

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    LLE Reply:

    Reader did ask the question and CH they never met but Eric been to the pits to see Quinn fight. They know each other by reputation that what CH says.

    CH is not going to give the stories way at all

    Quinn wanted Eric and dead and he was hoping that Sookie would team up with him to kill Eric so they break up the blood bond.

    What I say about Quinn is he another serial killer that kills when someone is in the way. There a reason why Eric has Quinn ban from area because he knows more about Quinn than Sookie does.

    The only reason Sookie broken up with Quinn because she found out that she does not come first. Sookie does not want Bill and Sam to be involved with anyone and to be first in their lives.

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    C.K. Reply:

    Who knows with CH these are mystery novels. There could be some shocking ending to the series. Maybe CH will pull a last minute bombshell about Eric (I really hope that won’t be the case).

    I wonder if Quinn is suppoised to be in book 12 at all? If Quinn had the chance, I think he would kill Eric.

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    LLE Reply:

    CH said no but really who knows.

    At one time CH did say Quinn was suppose to be in book 11 but she change her mind. I take what she say grain of salt.

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    IATM Reply:

    Hell yea IMO Quinn would try to kill Eric..

    in DAG Quinn’s apperance at Sookie’s house just brings more speculation to the fact.. CH said that Quinn will ne in the Compaion Book. so we will see..

    i was never a fan of the Tiger ( so i dont care what really happens to him ).. he was a sell out IMO.

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    KCScout Reply:

    From your mouth to Charlaine Harris’ ears;)

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  • MuySangre

    SVB; pardon, “If not” should be substituted for “But” in last line of desperate, inebriated, your-insane-not-to-let-him
    -turn-you-post. That damn Gallo Family ( save me Eric)

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  • A-pos

    I see a St. Elsewhere ending coming.Sookie could use the Cluviel Dor to make Eric human again but he would hate that so I see Sookie two books from now using it to make it so meeting Bill , the Queens mission etc never happened and she could go back to being weird Sookie with no awareness of Supes and them having no awareness of her.

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    C.K. Reply:

    A-pos

    I’d be so pissed if that happened. Sookie even said to Sam once that she doesn’t regret being a part of the supe world because it gives her a purpose and she is useful to people. This would erease all the growth and progress that she has made. Sookie would be running away from her problems by wishing them all away. I have no clue about that cluviel dor but you have an interesting theory. It could be a great twist but a slap in the face/betrayel to fans if it ended with Sookie never meeting supes. A lot of people would be livid and unsatisifed with that ending, in my opinion.

    I doubt Eric will become a human. Like you said A-pos “he would hate it”. Eric would resent Sookie and their relationship would end. He doesn’t like humans much. Plus, all his power would be gone and he would feel weak because his vampire strength would be vanquished. I think that Eric would begin to hate himself if he became human because he love being a vampire. He would like the sun and spending the day with Sookie but that would be about it. He would be an easy target on top of it.

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    hime Reply:

    I would hate it both ways. If Sookie uses the cluviel dor to undo all that’s happened in these 4(?) years, it would be extremely cruel, almost offensive towards all us fans, not to mention unbelievable, because Sookie has been so interconnected with the supes world that deleting all her contacts with it would mean deleting a lot of important events that happened in the supes world. JMO.
    And re: human Eric. I can’t see him this way nor I would be happy if Sookie chose something so selfish. Eric LOVES being a vampire. Maybe he would accept to grow old and die to make Sookie happy, but would it be fair? Plus, what kind of message would it give? That you can’t be happy with someone who’s not the same race as you? That to have a true love story you have to destroy any difference between you and your lover? IDK, I really don’t like this scenario… I would like Sookie to use the cluviel dor to help Eric someway, to do something really good for him eventually, like avoiding the marriage with Oklahoma.

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    Mony Reply:

    “Plus, what kind of message would it give? That you can’t be happy with someone who’s not the same race as you? That to have a true love story you have to destroy any difference between you and your lover?” – ITA Hime. That’s why turning Eric into a human is just cruel and it doesn’t even send the right message, becouse if you have to change your mate to be happy then, it’s not love and it’s not real, it’s just artificial.

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    hime Reply:

    Yeah, it would be just like Sookie turned into a vampire, but in reverse.

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    C.K. Reply:

    Plus Sookie isn’t even completely human. We don’t know yet how she is going to age. She might look young for longer. I know she is supposed to have a normal lifespan but maybe there is more to it. Also, Sookie likes being in the supe world because she wasn’t happy before.

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    Sherry Reply:

    CH says it on her website that a vampire cannot be turned human. Those FAQs on her site about the books I think are really clear. We’re not getting Sookie turns vamp/vamp turns human/human has half vampire babies. It’s just not going to happen.

    Eric would not be happy to be turned human. He would be vulnerable, breakable and lose all the power he has accumulated. She couldn’t live with herself if she took up his offer for them to leave together in DTTW, why would she do that with the c.d.?

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  • H2OHen

    I think I’ve read everything in both threads, but forgive me if I missed someone else proposing this thought, regarding the C.D.
    I agree that turning Eric human would not be the way to go, and I think Sookie sees that. HOWEVER, what if she used the CD to make Eric a “daywalker?” That would allow her to spend more time with the man she loves, doing the some of the conventional things that she has lamented not being able to do, like waking up together, having breakfast, etc. It would give her a full-time marriage relationship AND take away a huge weakness of Eric’s. Having that power would also probably add to his negotiating power amongst other supes. It would be a gift for her love and would benefit them both, without requring either to give up anything (except her peace and quiet during the day!).

    And a daywalking vampire marriage would fall under the heading of “unconventional.”

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  • SacredmOOn

    Hello everyone!
    What about the dream Sookie had about Amelia, Eric, and Pam where in a house that was on fire. Sookie had to pull them out something of that sort. But Sookie comments why Amelia is there and she and her oh shit mistake moments causes diaster (like Bob for one). Is it a vision shes having is it going to happen and where? Would like your view SVB please.

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    SVB Reply:

    I thought her comment about Amelia was more along the lines of what would Amelia be doing in a house with Eric and Pam because Amelia doesn’t like them.

    I have to say though, that passage seemed awfully random. In dreams a house usually represents yourself – Sookie dreaming a house was on fire with Eric and Pam inside needing rescue I think is just straight forward conflict about where Eric and Pam fit into her life. But Amelia in there is weird. Perhaps it’s a warning.

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    SacredmOOn Reply:

    Yeah I see your view SVB I wonder if its a warning to Sookie about Amelia not to trust her at all maybe? That she is out to kill Eric and Pam. But I always thought Amelia really liked Pam, but then again she really liked Trey to supposedly anyway. But she sures gets over her ex’s fast doesn’t she, maybe it was all just an act. I wouldn’t put it past her father to possibly have some connection in this either and Victor.

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    MASpencer Reply:

    I also find myself scratching my head a little over Amelia hating Eric so much. I mean, she was DATING Pam for a while… and I can’t think of any obvious reasons why she would have it out for him. I suppose you could chalk it up to her blaming him for Tray’s death… but seeing as how she’s back with Bob(and oh-so happy, or so she says), it certainly doesn’t SEEM that she’s still stewing over that.

    Anyway, I just don’t get Amelia’s grudge against Eric… what, with her even going so far as to try to hook Sookie up with Alcide, right after she’d broken the bond. Being a fairy, at least Claude’s disapproval makes sense. But I feel like Amelia has a vested interest in pulling Sookie away from Eric, and I’d like to know what her agenda is. Her intentions don’t feel entirely pure to me.

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    SacredmOOn Reply:

    Amelia didn’t like Claudine or Fae in general. The feeling was mutual from Claudines POV to though out the books towards Amelia.

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    LLE Reply:

    Who feeding false information to Amelia? Maybe, Amelia thinks that she was freeing Sookie from evil Eric that someone telling her. Sookie was telling Sam about Bob being the father of the kittens. Next thing, Bob show up and tells Sookie that he not the father of the kittens. Last book, Amelia was not worry about the blood bond at all and did not hate Eric.

    Sam don’t want anything to do with the supe and loner and why does he has the data base about the supe world.

    By the end of the series, Sookie is going to get heart broken by a big betray by someone she thought as a friend.

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    Lyta Reply:

    oh God, Sookie brokenhearted by the betrayal of a friend bothers me because I’m afraid she has an emotional setback, I just really hope that his being more mature (despite some bumps in DR, she evolves much in this book) is permanent . unff I do not know if I stand a Sookie traumatized, again, by a betrayal, even more of a friend. Yes I know that many hope that she will be disappointed by something that Sam can do (I do not care about him…but – I do not want, as long as he stays in your little corner without interfering in the Sookie’s life, of course. :(

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    C.K. Reply:

    Sookie has been betrayed so many times already. This is part of the reason that she has issues with Eric. Eric ends up paying the price for other peoples mistakes. Sookie puts her trust in Amelia yet she wavers on Eric. I think Sookie should be more suspicious of Amelia than she is. I really don’t know whats up with Sam.

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    VikingsJoy Reply:

    So, if Terry has been under a spell all this time to spy on Sookie and Sookie didn’t find out about it….how do we know that Amelia and Bob weren’t as well? Or possibly glamoured with the purpose of pressuring Sookie to agree to the bond breaking and trying to increase her mistrust of Eric. Seems like something that both the fairies or the Queen of Oklahoma might do to get Sookie away from Eric. Then she would be ripe for the picking.

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    IATM Reply:

    Here is the thing with me & MY Opinion..

    if Sookie is clinging to the title of “Eric’s wife” then start acting like it or leave the relationship.. it is so simple really in DR for Sookie to call it quicks with Eric..

    there really isnt much to think about IMO.. if Sookie feels like she is in a repeat version of Billy then flee like she typically does in relationships..

    I’m Sure Eric will move on & wont be stalking Sookie in the woods by her house like Sam ( as Dean does or Billy Boy)..

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    VikingsJoy Reply:

    I agree IATM…Sookie needs to shit or get off the pot. She either needs to accept him, flaws and all, or be done with it.

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    SacredmOOn Reply:

    Ditto I agree :)

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    HelenaHandbasket Reply:

    Sookie needs to stake her claim or forfeit.

    I think this is also why Pam was encouraging Sookie to look out for herself.

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    C.K. Reply:

    Eric needs to know the the marriage is worth fighting. He needs to no that he is putting everything on the line for a reason. Eric needs conformation from Sookie.

    hime Reply:

    I’m extremely suspicious about Amelia now, too. The way Sookie describes her while she’s severing the blood bond, as “triumphant” or something like that, it’s very weird. I don’t get why Amelia would want to hurt Sookie or put her in danger, but actually she did, since now Eric can’t sense her fear or claim her as his bonded anymore. There’s still the vampire marriage, okay, but IF (big if) Eric has to marry Oklahoma, then he will have to repudiate Sookie, who will be left without any protection…

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  • DarkWolf

    Why does Sookie need a man to have a HEA? Couldn’t it all end with her finding herself and being happy on her own? I hear so many people debate about who will be Sookie’s HEA, but what if it’s herself that make her happy? Has CH specifically said she will have a man in her life that will give her, her HEA? She also seemed to mention how happy she was to be by herself in her home quite a few times in the book.

    Maybe Hunter is the key to her HEA, something happens to Remy so she takes in Hunter and goes off to build a life away from the violence and gore of vamps with her adopted son. I couldn’t see her doing that on her own, but taking in a child might be enough to push her into hiding from the dangers of sup politics.

    Or I think her fairy heritage will have something to do with her HEA, on the first post there was talk of her gaining some sort of political power among the Fae and I think that is possible. She is definitely more entrenched in the Fae world then I think we know. I don’t know, I can’t wait until the next book comes out!

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    Eddy Reply:

    Dark wolf,
    In a recent interview by CH on tv she was with her BF Paula and she said something like ,she will end up with someone who will makes her happy in the long term ,or words to that effect, then she looked at Paula and said, oops! So it sounds like she will end up with someone.

    Also on a different point in DR why was it not ok for Pam to make a child because there were too many vamps but Eric saying to Sook,that he could turn the Sook quickly enough if she didn’t want to get old.

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    C.K. Reply:

    I think CH said that she decided on a suitor in book two for Sookie.
    It bothered me how Eric that “we can take care of that easily enough”. Sookie was looking at him like WTF? I know he was mad at her but I just didn’t like the way he said it like it was nothing. He was all in his contained anger mode.

    You have a good point Eddy. Pam probably said that to Eric to that he would probably defy Victor and turn Sookie if she wanted to become a vampire. Eric was more hesitent with Pam’s situation because he doesn’t care about Mirium. To Eric’s defense, he did want to let Pam turn Mirium but he was backed into a corner by Victor. Actually, Pam was going to turn Mirium but was to late. Your right if the situation was reversed and it was Sookie who was sick and wanted to be turned, Eric would have turned Sookie regardless of what Victor said.

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    Holby Reply:

    But it was true…the problem could be solved easily enough…and the difference between Sookie and Miriam is that time is not an issue with Sookie. They could wait out the problem of Victor if Sookie truly wanted to be turned. The problem with Miriam was that time was running out for the girl.

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    Ashley Reply:

    CH has said more than once that Sookie will be with her chosen suitor at the end Darkwolf. :) I think the reason it was mentioned a few times that Sookie was okay with being alone in this book was to show that she’s okay not having a man around ALL the time, even when she’s in a realtionship with one. She’s enjoys having time to herself as well.

    I see this as a VERY good thing, since with Eric Sookie will have her days to herself and what she wants to do for the rest of her life, without having Eric around. So it’s good she appreciates some of that independence.

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    C.K. Reply:

    Too bad the vampires don’t have talisman (a lucky charm/amulet) to let them walk in day like in vamp diaries. This would be beneficial. However, Sookieverse is a different world from vampire diaries.

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  • Ariel Hexen

    Hello I’m new here. But I been Reading the blog for a while now and I wanted to participate.

    I totally agree with IATM Sookie gets on my nerves.

    Like some of you I started by watching true blood, this because I’m fan of vampires and vampire mythology , so when they announced a show about vampires I was just ready to watch, of course I loved it and after doing some research I found out about the books.

    I have read all books (finished second read on DR yesterday) and after reading all the impressions everybody has on the books I wanted to give mine on the series so far.

    When I started watching the show I hated Sookie, I thought she was so simple and plain, I didn’t understand the fascination for her, probably because she is very different from BS, I liked Bill, but I liked Eric the most , I felt in love with him the first time I saw him in Fangtasia. Not because he was handsome, but because he was the “bad boy” then after reading the books I realized he was no bad boy, just a vampire, and I’m more in love with him than before hehehe

    For me Eric is tired of Sookie somehow, its been horrible to see him go so “low”, I know it’s the romantic idea, the guy that will do everything to prove his love to the girl, and I think Eric has prove his love enough, seriously. If by now Sookie can’t appreciate that, the relationship is doomed, Actually I think Eric can do better, don’t get me wrong I love Sookie but all her mental loops are just tiring. I just wish she could make up her mind, I feel like he’s always on trial with her, and it’s so not fair, he lost control over almost everything in his life for her( Even Pam said it), in the beginning he was this powerful, sexy, control freak, free vampire and now he is just Sookies protector, husband, lover, and he doesn’t even get to have an opinion (like with the bond break), or a free second to be himself (his other self the happy killing vampire). I hope
    next book Sookie proves now that she really cares about him and fight to get him back.

    One of my favorite quotes is on book five I think, It shows Eric’s desperation and how powerless he feels.

    -Should I just bite you and end it all? He whispered “I would never have to think about you again”

    Thinking of you is an annoying habit, and one I want to get rid of

    By the way Sookie can’t use the CD to make Eric human, imagine Sookie being able to read Eric’s thoughts she would never feel comfortable around him anymore, tough the communication problem between them will be solved hahaha.

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    C.K. Reply:

    I just think that Sookie doesn’t show enough regard to Eric’s feelings. Also, Pam shouldn’t have even had to have that conversation with Sookie in DITF about Eric and the pressure he’s under. Sometimes she doesn’t realize how much she truly does hurts him and maybe that has to do in part with Eric acting like things don’t bother him when they do. Sookie is always afraid that Eric is going to leave her. At one point Sookie wonders how much “humanity” Eric has left. He has enough of it to feel incredibly wounded and insulted by her remarks towards him. Eric is insecure in their relationship too and he needs validatihon too. At the same time he knows who he is and Sookie is still trying to figure out her life. I mentioned somewhere else in the blog that Eric is stuck paying for all the other men who have ever hurt Sookie. Sookie is afraid of getting hurt again.

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    IATM Reply:

    **waving Hi to Ariel*** :-)

    i agree with your post as well.. & i dont think Sookie will use the C.Dor to make Eric human either.. & that seems like a problem regarding Sam IMO..

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    Ariel Reply:

    Next book need’s to be about Sookie making up her mind and fighting for Eric or letting him go, sending Bill on his way to stalk someone else, and showing Sam what’s a real friend is.

    I didn’t hate Amelia like everybody else did in this book, I honestly though she did what she though was in Sookie’s best interest, but after reading your comments I think i need to go back on the books to check on her relationship with Sam.

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    LLE Reply:

    Sookie and Sam talk about Bob and being the father of kittens conversation. The first thing out Bob’s mouth is he not the father of the kittens. It’s look like Amelia and Sam been talking and Sam telling Amelia false things about Eric.

    Amelia might be thinking that she helping Sookie but she not helping her at all. Last book, Amelia did not think anything bad about Eric at all. What the changed.

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    IATM Reply:

    No, sorry i wasent clear.. i just meant Sookie is able to read Sam’s mind ( when he isnt blocking it from her).. so creating Eric human she would be able t o read his mind & she is able to read Sam’s mind when he allows it..

    so Sam is conceling things from Sookie on purpose ( since he has that ability in the books).. at least when Sookie reads Eric’s mind in the books it is looked at as a fluke ..

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    LLE Reply:

    In so many books, when Sookie is with Sam he block his mind so Sookie can’t read it. That is another bomb is block and been in so many of the books. Sookie can’t read Sam’s mind because he won’t let her. Sam has something to hide.

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    C.K. Reply:

    Maybe AB caught onto that because he made Sam have a con man/ murderous past on the T.V. show.

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    IATM Reply:

    yea Sammy the Con Man.. totaly mimicks Billy the Con Man.. they are the same IMO in this manner..

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    C.K. Reply:

    Ariel read the scene where Amelia interrupts Sookie and Eric’s conversation again. Amelia was a real witch in that scene giving Eric some off handed/ cryptic comment alluding to the breaking the blood bond and I think she was smiling too. I used to like her but not in this book at all. I guess I missed something in the other books she was in because I never knew she hated Eric that much. Apparently Eric and Pam knew she did.

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    Ashley Reply:

    I didn’t hate Amelia for breaking the bond or even for disliking Eric. What I did hate was Amelia being so damn happy and smug about it though, acting like as soon as the bond was broken Sookie would no longer care about Eric, and acting like she shouldn’t either. She was so nosy and hypocritical to me. She doesn’t like Eric because he’s a vampire and yet she dated a Were. It doesn’t make sense to me.

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    LLE Reply:

    Amelia did date Pam. Pam is a vampires and Eric’s child. I wonder if she said anything bad about Eric to Pam.

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    C.K. Reply:

    That is what I think might have happened. It would have been really dumb of Amelia to talk sh** on Eric to his loyal progeny. Unless Amelia was so brazen/confident that she just didn’t care. As we know after the AE incident witches are dangerous and can have power over vampires. Maybe she really wasn’t worried about ticking off Eric because she has magic on her side. I worry what else Amelia can do to Eric if she wants. She mentioned it took her a while to find a spell that didn’t kill one of the of the people when the bond was severed. I don’t think Eric appreciated the bond being broken via witchcraft after the whole amnesia incident. I don’t think Sookie even thought of that.

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  • C.K.

    It made me laugh whenever Sookie called Eric her “honeybon” so that was one funny moment.

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  • Holby

    Hi, ya’ll…I’m back. Took a long time off the posts, but now that I have finished re-reading the entire series, I have a couple of thoughts and would absolutely love some feedback:

    1) There is a LOT more to Sookie’s fae heritage than meets the eye. Let’s think about what we do know.
    She is the product of a human-fae mating, 2nd generation.
    Her grandfather forbad his father from contacting her and had a friend act as her “sponsor.”
    Her great-grandfather, a fairy, has had business dealings with vampires (Eric), and has conspired with Eric to keep an eye on the girl, to keep her safe.
    Shortly after Niall made himself known to her, a full on war started in Fairy and Niall’s only competition for rule of Fairy goes apeshit trying to kill Sookie
    We are to believe that this war and the sacrifices that Braendan made were just because Sookie is the relative that it would pain Niall the most to lose.
    After the war, Niall seals Fairy to “protect the humans.”
    Claude suddenly becomes completely obsessed with Sookie and moves in with her.
    We find out that Dermot has gone nuts because his own father bespelled him (WTF?) into siding with the opposition.
    Sam states that Dermot speaks to Sookie as though she is a queen.

    I propose that Sookie is next in the royal lineage, due to some quirk or another, to be ruler of Fae after Niall goes to the Summerland. Spite is not a good enough reason for Braendan to fight so hard to kill Sookie…if he was the only other living prince, he would have focused his greatest energy on Niall…but Sookie is female and can breed. I think it has something to do with Niall’s love of the wife that fathered Dermot and Fintan (he didn’t care for Dillon’s mother).

    2) There is a boatload we don’t know about Sam:
    I have maintained that Sam is not a true shifter…he is something other…for a long time. In LDID, Sam didn’t even know about other shifters. When he hooks up with the Maenad, he states that he had no idea of all the things that were out there. By DTTW, he knows all about Weres, weres and this interesting history lesson about the Hotshot community. By DAG, he’s talking about message boards and online forums and now in DR he has this Fairy information database that he can tap into that is part of a shifter library??? Um, doesn’t Sookie indicate that Weres are the most organized of the two natured (I refuse to call them twoeys…stupid name) but that shifters aren’t as organized and Sam loudly proclaims that he isn’t either of those because he’s a TrueShifter??? Where the hell did this library come from? The Vampires, who’ve been around for 1000+ years and have a highly structured society (both before and after the great reveal) have just developed their first database, but the unorganized and short-lived shifters have some extensive research collection???? Just doesn’t ring true. And, of course, the fact that Sam has invited Sookie into his thoughts, but nearly always has them shielded.

    Okay, shoot away. I await all the ways I am totally off base (said with a smile, because I really do value your much wiser conclusions!)

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    Serena Reply:

    Heya Holby, it has been awhile. :)

    Yeah I hate the word ‘twoeys’ too. Its terrible. LOL.

    I think the shifter stinks too, and its not because he’s a romantic threat to Eric, (*sarcasm*), lol, he suddenly has a very powerful and uber convenient source of information.. Bill at least had to work for his database and research it. :roll: Now Sam just has this thing he can sign into at will and look up stuff? Its handed to him on a silver freaking platter? WTF!! Something better be on the horizon to explain this, because it just doesn’t smell right to me either.

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    Ashley Reply:

    Yeah, something is up with Sam. What about the purple snarly thing Sookie read from his mind? That is really weird and couldn’t have been a throwaway mention, otherwise why put it into the book at all? There’s something going on.

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    SacredmOOn Reply:

    Yeah I wonder about that to the purple snarly thing with sam. I think he and Amelia have been chatting alittle to much. WTF she moved back to NO. Why would Sam and Amelia stay chatting to each other after she moved back, and not talk to Sookie hardly in that time.

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    SacredmOOn Reply:

    To me Sam and Amelia are beyond Shady so called friends. They each have some kind of goals, and they sure aren’t for Sookie’s sake as they always preach.

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  • jfozz

    I’m still wondering about Niall telling Sookie that Fintan had gotten a human pregnant before. He said the woman had died, but didn’t say whether the baby survived or not. Barry??
    Everyone seems to think that Judith has just moved on. I wouldn’t be surprised to find her in Ok.
    My big issue is the fact that since the fae have come onto the scene, we have been told numerous times how vampires go batshit after having fairy blood. At the end of DITF, Eric drains the fairy and just flies back to work. What happened with the ‘intoxication’?
    I also wondered whether Sookie was pregnant during DR, and if Erics ingestion of the fairy blood had anything to do with it. Although I believe CH has said that is impossible, not sure. It’s fiction, anything’s possible.

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    Serena Reply:

    Oh I don’t think Judith has just moved on… I think she’s off to tell Solomon, (Lorena’s maker who is currently in Europe) what Sookie did to Lorena. Loads of us think that is going to come back and bite Sookie in the arse one way or another. :lol:

    I don’t know, I think CH needs to be asked that about Eric draining Coleman,.. the only thing I can think of is Eric had been wounded just previously and then had Sookie’s blood, the full fairy effect might not have kicked in. But of course, he did fly off shortly after that, so perhaps he did after the fact but we’re just not privy to it. IDK. : /

    Lol, .. the last time I remember CH addressing the ‘is Sookie pregnant’ question was after DAG (and Gift Wrap), I really don’t think she is pregnant, though that may have been one of Niall’s motives in having her watched by Claude and of course the Preston incident. I don’t really feel like that’s the case though, JMO. lol.

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    C.K. Reply:

    Oh I forgot about Solomon. At least he is around Lorena’s age and Lorena betrayed him so I would think he would be a little happy that she’s dead. Unless, he wanted to be the one to kill her someday.

    Since Sookie is starting to feel more fae I wonder if Pam is going to start to lose it a little around Sookie.

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    IATM Reply:

    according to DAAD ( book 5) Salome was Mickey’s Maker..

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    C.K. Reply:

    IATM,

    Solomon is a different person from Salome. Salome was Mickeys maker. However, Solomon was Lorenas maker. He saw her kill some customer that didn’t pay for her services. Then, Lorena wanted to be turned by Solomon and she ended up betraying him.

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    IATM Reply:

    ooh, i dont recall that info.. which book?? do you remember CK??

    i have been reading LDID now.. when was Lorena’s Maker mentioned in CD??

    i’ll keep that in mind when i re read..

    Thankx for the :-) clarity CK

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    HelenaHandbasket Reply:

    Its in DITF – Solomon Brunswick.

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    IATM Reply:

    Thanks Helena..

    i didnt even catch that in DITF.. but now when i do my re- read i’ll pay more attention ..

    Thankx Much :-)

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    heart's desire Reply:

    About Eric draining Coleman, it seemed to me he felt the effects – but he was wounded so it was a smaller buzz, if you will.

    “I could practically watch the fairy blood zinging through his system. I could see his energy level picking up. Everything physically wrong with him had healed, and now with the rush of Coleman’s blood he was forgetting his grief for his maker and his brother, and feeling only the relief of being free of them. “I feel so good.” he actually drew a breath of the night air, still tainted with the odors of blood & death. He seemed to savor the smell. “You are my dearest,” he said, his eyes manic blue.”

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    Sherry Reply:

    I think that’s perhaps why he left so quickly. Knowing the fact that Eric loves to be in control of a situation and knows how he cares for Sookie and wouldn’t want to physically hurt her he left to avoid any damaged that could have been caused by fairy blood.

    It takes A LOT of self control and we clearly see Bill lacking it. He couldn’t even control himself around half fairy Dermot. Bill would have been on her in a vampire second and Eric probably would’ve had to kill him.

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  • pizpireta

    Hey you all!
    I´m new to the blog but been reading all your comments, most helped me over the “waiting sucks” period!
    Let´s see, with all Bill´s finesse, I still believe he aint´going to shack up with Sook. She´s past over him.
    Eric´s not going to be Sookie´s HEA? I don´t doubt this. With all the vampire politics going on and Appius (Gosh I would love to rekill this vamp!!!)he´ll succumb to OK BUT not after a near to death fight that will find Sookie using her c.d.
    It´s heartbreaking to see how Sook loses her “innocence” and resort to masterminding the KILLVIC campaign. Sad to read her selfpity “that´s what you all tell me and it don´t make me any happier”.
    You know I am one who bets, she´ll wind up being full Fae, with her memories of first Bill, then Eric (with Alcide almost and a happy night with Quinn) to get her by.
    Love from Spain.

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    Ashley Reply:

    Hi Pizpireta. :) CH has said Sookie would be with her chosen suitor at the end. So in that case I don’t think she will end up full fae.

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    pizpireta Reply:

    Hola Ashley,

    I believe our dear Sookie is “disillusioned” with Eric. First of all, after breaking the BB, she´s realised that she loves him, clear and simple. And he does too! But I insist, with the vampire policies and a letter agreement that the QoO got from Appius, Eric will have to crack his brains to find a way not to honor the deal.
    What a cracker this would be on our handsome Viking!
    Plus Sookie, who may not feel left out in all the other books, does feel “inadequate” for him now, what with the powers and looks and economics that QoC has.
    I feel that the turn of events, ie Victor dead and this dilemna in the offing and not forgetting that the Fae Community has bonded as one, we may find that in the next book, more pages will be written about them, giving them more protagonism.
    Sookie preggy? what will come out of this, a hybrid baby?
    I would like everyone to find happines, but I guess I´m being bluesy about how the situation came out right after the KILLVIC drama.

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  • C.K.

    This has probably been mentioned before but I was just wondering if Amelia might have been working for QSA. Quinn was on the Queens payroll and Hadly was the Queens girlfriend. Hadly lived in Amelia’s apartment. Didn’t Amelia act like she never met the queen before when QSA came to the apartment. Wouldn’t the queen like to have a witch working for her. QSA never trusted Eric because she feared that he would take her position. Someone might have mentioned this before but maybe Quinn was sent as an attempt to get Sookie away from Eric since QSA was always threatened by him. Eric is the obstacle in the way of getting Sookie. QSA is dead so IDK.

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    SacredmOOn Reply:

    I wouldn’t put it past Amelia working for the former Queen and Quinn. I think she was and still is an assighment from QSA to who ever found out after the takeover picked up where the former QSA assignment left off possibly. Darn does that make any sense!

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    C.K. Reply:

    Yes, there are so many suspicious people in this book.

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  • Hootiecat1

    IMO…It was wise to get rid of the BB. Being tied that tightly to any vampire is bad for Sookie. The way it was done was harsh (as was her binding, re-read Andre’s words to Sookie in ATD — the vamps sure didn’t care about her life) and possibly with an ulterior reason on Amelia’s part — but Sookie is no longer a slave to any vampire emotions — she can see them clearly now, in all their bloody violence. The BB was forced on Sookie by Andre to use for QSA own gain, after bill’s failure. By the way don’t forget QSA could read Andre’s mind. Sookie did not have a choice in the BB. Eric was the lesser of the two evils in that rotten deal as he said, but still a rotten deal. Sookie needs to be free… to have her own feeling of what she feels is right or wrong. Sookie couldn’t be sure of what her feelings were for Eric until the BB was broken, or his for her. Sookie is not stupid, she thinks and she doesn’t always tell what she’s thinking. (except to us readers) Sookie is extremely good at keeping secrets, like Hunter and now a cluviel dor. The broken BB did not prevent Sookie from PLANNING & KILLING VICTOR she knew it had to be done, to save herself and the vamps she loves. She knew she was bug juice under Victor’s foot along with Eric & Pam.

    Sookie needs time to reassess everything that’s happened to her since she was forced into the BB now that she’s free. Now she doesn’t have to question if it’s her feelings or Eric’s, her anger or Eric’s, her rejoicing or Eric’s, in a bloody aftermath of killing Victor. Sookie is now free of Eric’s conflicted emotions, should he or shouldn’t he do as his maker commanded, in the QoO mess Appius set up for Eric.

    Sookie is now in a perfect position to decide for herself if Eric loves her, or not, by his actions.
    THE BALL IS IN THE VIKINGS COURT. The ass hurt her with his bite, she even accepted that and took responsibility for it. But what has Eric taken responsibility for?

    I do get tired of the negative put down of Sookie. Do all of you think she doesn’t know that this whole QoO marrying Eric is not to get SOOKIE’S ASS? She just got out of the Louisiana vamp power struggle to have her ass by breaking the BB with Eric — now she has to concentrate on how to stay alive while Eric makes up his mind about what he wants….

    I would have some doubt’s about a man I loved negotiating with the “other woman” of what he’ll get from marriage to this new woman politically, in my house with me in the other room? Especially if I’m still supposed to be his WIFE? (Oops gotta go, having a crisis with my McPeople/cute cow/human, BUT I’LL CALL YOU BACK?) Excuse me Sookie has ears folks…

    THAT’S A FUCKINGASSHOLEOFTHEFIRSTDEGREE…

    I really wouldn’t give a shit what Eric thought about my not rejoicing at the successful outcome of a plan I formulated to kill scary ass vampires who wanted me dead.
    I think Sookie took Pam’s wise advice to lookout for her own interests.

    I loved this book — for the first time SVM really feels like a mystery series, not a romance. I can hardly wait to see how all the pieces CH has in store for us.
    I love how Eric’s character has been developed (I love him too) and Sookie. I’d love him to be HEA but CH doesn’t always do what we’re hoping for.

    My prediction is that this is a real break-up for Eric and Sookie.
    Ah Oh….

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    C.K. Reply:

    If Eric does have to go through with this marriage to Freyda, I would not want Sookie to stay with him. It would be degrading to Sookie to be demoted to a whore. It is against her character. She would not deserve to be treated like that. I think there will be some way out of the arrangement. Pam did not deserve to get the living daily beaten out her either for wanting to tell the truth. Darn I felt so awful for Pam in this book. She got beaten to a pulp by Vicotr’s bouncers, was at odds with Eric, lost Mirium, and was torn between Eric and Sookie. I think Eric and Sookie need to think more about Pam too.

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    IATM Reply:

    i agree CK,

    if Eric does have to go through the marriage then Sookie should dump him like she did all the other’s..

    the ball is in Sookie’s court IMO for the simple fact that this isnt NEW to her fighting over a man.. she did the same thing in CD actually.. but it was for her first & not her husband.. & since CH IMO chicken out to make Oklahoma have paper’s on Eric instead of the situation of Billy being “under the control of his Maker”.. this is important as well ..

    because Sookie’s choice is so simple in DR.. Oklahoma not only isnt Eric’s Maker.. but someone else is responsible for decideing his fate with Oklahoma ( Apppuis & Felipe of all people) ..

    Sookie could say easy “I dont want this shit on my back door” & you know what i really wouldnt have a problem with her choice if that is it..

    CH sort of screwed Eric in this book IMO in regards to making him be in a similar situation that Billy was in -in CD.. i mean really creative writing .. Eric is a shadow copy of Billy in a “another women” situation??

    the only difference is that Oklahoma isnt Eric’s Maker & Felipe sounds like he has some say so in the situation ( being King)..

    how is this Eric’s fault?? or for that matter how is it Eric’s fault that all the other stuff happen to Sookie ( the way Sam in DR talks)??

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    SacredmOOn Reply:

    It’s not Eric’s fault it’s his maker and possibly someone else to. I think everyone But Eric and Pam are betraying her. All she really has is Eric and Pam that really care and love her, Tara likes Eric and supports her with Eric in a positive way, she also love’s Sooie to her true best friend next to Pam.

    I think Sam, Amelia, Bob, Alcide, Claude, Dermot, GGF with (preston) “gift wrap” have betrayed her, and still setting up more with future reveiled betrayals in 12th, 13th books.

    I think she will realize the people she gave the hardest time to through out the books ERIC and Pam are her family and best True Friends Tara to. Tara gave her opinion but respected Sookie’s decesion and supported her with out judgement. None of the above can say that, there to determined breaking up Eric and Sookie any way possible and almost evey angle covered it seems.

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    IATM Reply:

    @ SacredmOOn ,

    Very True.. i dont know what happen ( sorry for the double post)..

    but i agree with your post nontheless..

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    C.K. Reply:

    The major question Sookie has for Eric is he willing to stay with her if she remains human and becomes old.

    Maybe if Eric chooses to stay with her some fae magic can help. CH used the kiss to brake the spell with Dermot even though that is a fairytale cliche. I think CH mentioned that magic can be used to extend life but that it wouldn’t be used on Sookie. I don’t know I just think there has to be some way Sookie can remain young or whatever since she isn’t entirely human. I know there won’t be some fairytale ending and I am fine with that. Maybe the last book will go out with a bang.

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    IATM Reply:

    with the introduction of the C. Dor under you theory / idea i guess anything is possible CK..

    it really just seems like a weird thing for CH at the end of the day to create Sookie another Gran..

    i mean Gran cheated on her husband to have kids.. is CH really going to do that with Sookie’s character to give her a Sammy HAE?? & kids & a so called “Normal Life”??

    REALLY, at this point it seems so cliche’ & why would Sookie pick that?? i think if anything DR provided more of a reason for Sookie to pick the opposite of Gran.. CH tainted Gran with cheating for a superficial reason ( Kids because someone she loved couldnt give her all she wanted ).. to be happy is that really what Sookie wants?? to be a mimick of Gran in that manner?? love & be happy with Eric.. but sutle for Sam for Kids & a so called “normal life” & a so called “Cinderalla Story”??

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    C.K. Reply:

    IATM,

    I was looking at the forum and someone else also mentioned that maybe Sookie never told Eric about the wedding she went to with Sam. I kind have a feeling that Sookie didn’t tell Eric about that wedding. Probably, Sam and Sookie shared a hotel room too (I am sure nothing happened) but still. Eric would flip sh** if she didn’t tell him and he finds out. I know Eric trusts Sookie but he is not 100% secure in their relationship. Especially, if she kept that from him. I do think that it is possible because Eric was busy with other stuff. I wish the companion book was out already.

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    C.K. Reply:

    Oh and I don’t think Pam mentioned the wedding in little speech she gave a Sookie’s house.

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    IATM Reply:

    WOW .. you know what CK,

    didnt Sookie share a room with Barry ( Hotel room)?? in ATD?? humm, i’m thinking about thngs …

    i’m in the process of re-reading the early books.. i’m on LDID right now..

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    C.K. Reply:

    Yah IATM she did nothing share a hotel room with Berry but nothing happened there and it was after the Rhode bombing. They were exhausted and went to sleep.

    Eric did meet with Freyda a couple of times so even if Sookie did go to the wedding without telling Eric she can call him out on meeting his betrothed. He can call her a hypocrite yet again so their even.

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    SacredmOOn Reply:

    I felt really bad for Pam in this book to. It was heartbreaking for her to lose Mirium. With all the fighting and stress all around each of them.

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    northmanfan Reply:

    “I would have some doubt’s about a man I loved negotiating with the “other woman” of what he’ll get from marriage to this new woman politically,”

    How was he negotiating? Anyone care to post that scene/conversation? How do you know he wasn’t putting Freyda off? Also…at this point to me it’s a disingenuous to try to classify these books as predominantly mysteries.

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    SacredmOOn Reply:

    I think he is pretending to be negotiating (buying time) to figure a way out of it. I agree with you were is the conversation???

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    Holby Reply:

    I’m with you, SacredmOOn

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    Holby Reply:

    And another thing…as for the “bite.” Let’s try to maintain some perspective here. Eric was definitely injured badly in his fight with Victor. He did need to heal. He was hit on the head with a rock and bit Sookie with zero finesse and drank until he healed and she didn’t even have an official relationship with him then. Good grief, it isn’t like she had her throat ripped out, nearly drained and raped…er, I mean THIS time.

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    Skarlove Reply:

    I’m with you totally on this, Holby. In my opinion, far too much has been made out of “the bite”. Nice to see you here, btw! :)

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    Serena Reply:

    I don’t think “far too much has been made out of it.” I think there are valid reasons for it to be upsetting to readers, Eric certainly has not used physical pain as a means to counter Sookie’s bullshit before. That is new and scary.

    I don’t think its a major fissure in their relationship either though. :?

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    VikingLover Reply:

    Yes, I agree Serena. I think it’s just a matter of how it comes across to each individual reader. Not every one will have the same reaction to each scene and that’s okay. I actually didn’t think too much of that scene but was stuck for days on the Pam/Eric scene. Even though I understand the reasoning behind it, it still bothered me immensely. I’m over it now but it took a while.

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    SacredmOOn Reply:

    Eric and Pam fighting bothers me to I Don’t Like It. They have never acted like that though out the series till now, (Well not with each other).

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    C.K. Reply:

    I agree I thought he was being an a hole when he bit her but I get that he was frustrated and had about enough. He did need blood and she offered.

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    hime Reply:

    I was upset with the bite too because so far Eric has never hurt Sookie, and that was something I could rely on. He is scary and ruthless and Sookie saw all of this, but she never experienced his ruthlessness on herself. And now she has, and somewhat it’s a deal breaker for me.
    But if was a gesture coming from sheer frustration, on Eric’s side. he was expecting Sookie to be happy like he was, to welcome him in her arms, while she stood there looking grim for all the blood spilled. Sookie was being hypocritical and annoying and Eric acted like a douchebag in return. Period. It’s not very mature, on both parts. They need to start communicating for real, now that the bond is broken.

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    LLE Reply:

    I understand why Sookie did it and I don’t blame her for being sick of all the killing. I hope she will feels this way about murder.

    The real reason for the attack on her was he want Sookie to walk way from him like she did on Bill. Eric knows Sookie’s walking way and he will marry the Queen.

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    Skarlove Reply:

    Didn’t mean to offend anyone. Sorry if it came across that way!

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    SacredmOOn Reply:

    Holby your to funny :) but also correct.

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    Hootiecat1 Reply:

    Northmanfan..

    Eric himself tells Sookie on page (253) “In the meantime, she (QoO) calls me every week, offering me a share of her kingdom if I’ll come to her.” Those are negotiations at least in the mind of the QoO. I do believe Eric is trying to get out of the marriage — but he’s also conflicted about doing what Appius arranged. (260) Eric is so old that arranged marriage was a norm for his time. He still thinks that way.

    Eric lashes out at Sookie saying “I know you’ve always insisted you weren’t my true wife, so presumable that would not be hard for you.” Eric’s busted he’s been deceptive… trying to blame Sookie for how she acted in the marriage? Thank god he back peddled on that one. BASTARD. DID HE EVER F***ING ONCE TELL HER HOW SHE SHOULD ACT?

    ERIC TOOK THE QUEEN’S CALL ON HIS CELL PHONE, WHICH CONVENIENTLY DISPLAYS THE NUMBER OF THE PERSON THAT’S CALLING. WHO GAVE THE QUEEN HIS CELL NUMBER?… I’M SAYING ERIC DIDN’T HAVE TO TAKE THE FUCKING CALL IF HE DIDN’T WANT TOO…BUT HE DID IT IN SOOKIE’S HOUSE (wife or just his “human/cow but cute too”)
    THEN — ERIC NOTICED HE HAD A CRISIS AND TOLD THE QUEEN HE’D CALL HER BACK. THIS IS TOTALLY DISRESPECTFUL AND CRULE TO ANY WOMAN YOU SAY YOU LOVE. NO WONDER SHE THREW UP!!! SHE LOVES THE ASSHOLE. THE THING IS SOOKIE DIDN’T DOUBT ERIC WOULD CALL THE QUEEN BACK, SHE JUST DIDN’T KNOW WHERE SHE STOOD IN HIS LIFE. Sadly he never told her either.

    Another instance of Eric’s ancient attitude of marriage is — he never gave Sookie a choice — she was tricked into this vampire marriage to Eric. His race, his marriage ritual, and he’s not once explained to Sookie what that marriage entailed for her. Sookie didn’t know the BB was more important for her protection than the marriage, until her told her on the phone after the bond was already broken. Did Eric ever offer to marry Sookie in a human ritual? No…Eric may love Sookie but he’s never offered her a marriage she could recognize as legal and binding for herself. At least Sookie told him that she would be faithful unless she felt the BB was all they had. Sookie never recognized the vampire marriage and never pretended she did and Eric always knew that. HAS ERIC EVER ASKED SOOKIE WHAT SHE CONSIDERS MARRIAGE? Not that I know of???

    I agree with Pam. Eric has been a crapy husband and has so habitually kept Sookie in the dark about what she should know and not know — he’s put her life in danger…again.
    This time Sookie needs to stay home and not run after the man to try and save his ass. She needs to let Eric figure out what’s valuable to him. Sookie is going to have enough trouble staying alive.

    THE BALL IS IN ERIC’S COURT, HE’S GOT TO PROVE TO SOOKIE HE LOVES HER AND WANTS HER.

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    SVB - Admin Reply:

    Ummm…let’s all take a deep breath, shall we?

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    SacredmOOn Reply:

    LOL yeah no kidding right breathe everybody. At this rate you will have a heart attact and won’t make to see book #12 release LOL.

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    hime Reply:

    I think you are forgetting a very simple fact. The “other woman” is not an average vampire lady. It’s the fucking QUEEN OF OKLAHOMA! And if a queen wants something, and has the paper to claim it, she simply TAKES it. Eric has been answering her calls to find a way to buy time. I don’t believe for a second he would even consider to marry a queen, not only because of Sookie, but ’cause he loves freedom more than anything. What would he be when married with OK? The Queen’s Husband? Totally humiliating for him.
    Did Eric ever offer to marry Sookie in a human ritual? No… .
    True. But Sookie NEVER gave him the impression to want it. She always acted as though this vamp marriage were a total nuisance to her, something that she never wanted and would get rid of, if she could. Eric is not 100% sure of Sookie’s feelings for him. She is always kind of wary when expressing her feelings, and she always refused what he offered: to be turned, to live in his house, to work at Fangtasia.

    I believe this whole Oklahoma thing is the chance for her to clear her mind and to figure whether she really cares for Eric or not. Eric is ALREADY fighting to avoid the marriage, now it’s her turn to choose what to do, if she wants to fight back, or if she wants to leave Eric to his destiny and wash her hands clean. JMO, of course.

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    SVB Reply:

    Thanks for pointing this out Hime.

    I don’t believe it is an option for a sheriff to simply hang up on a Queen, or divert her calls to voicemail. Telling her to shove her proposal is not an option either. It’s completely obvious to me that Eric is buying time. He’s placating Freyda while he tries to raise FDC, or any other means necessary to get him out of an arrangement he clearly doesn’t want.

    JFC, if Eric wanted more power he would have sold Sookie up the river to the PTB long before this. He never did. Instead, he stuck his neck on the block with Andre, and then later with FDC to ensure that WOULDN’T happen.

    Eric has only ever been interested in “power” to the extent that it guarantees his autonomy. He wants to call the shots in his own “baliwick”. A baliwick is ones own area of jurisdiction. He’s not interested in power for it’s own sake, and he never has been. Freyda offers him NOTHING that he didn’t already have before Victor came to crap all over his play pen.

    And becoming her consort would reduce him to the equivalent of TB’s Talbot. The small amount of power he has now would be GONE. He would be Freyda’s bitch.

    Don’t ever believe that Eric would sign up for that voluntarily. Above and beyond anything he feels for Sookie, that Viking has an EGO. And that’s why I love him.

    No way, no how.

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    SacredmOOn Reply:

    Good Day SVB

    True, True and So True

    Thats the way I look at it to SVB

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    LLE Reply:

    Sookie and Eric have to talk and it’s not up to Sookie. It’s Eric decision not Sookie. If Eric told Sookie that he had way to get out of it than Sookie makes a decision. If Eric tells Sookie that he putting her a side, than Sookie walk way.

    The reason for the bite is that he want Sookie to walk way so he can marry the Queen.

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    hime Reply:

    I really don’t think so.

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    LLE Reply:

    She was in so much pain and she tear because of what he done to her. Eric wanted Sookie to walk way from him and so he can go ahead of marry the queen.

    Eric does not want to make the decision, meanwhile, he wants someone else to make the decision.

    If Sookie had not found out, Eric was going to do the same thing what Bill did.

    Next book we find out if Eric marry the Queen and I would not surprise me that next book will time jump.

    If Eric bit Sookie because he was mad at her, it’s abuse and she should walk way from Eric because he will do it again.

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    hime Reply:

    I don’t think Eric’s gesture was purposely intended to make Sookie walk away. It was an instinctive move coming from his frustration in seeing Sookie worrying for the dead vampires (their enemies) rather than for him and Pam who were wounded and had fight to protect her, too. He wanted to remind her what he really is and to wake her up. Eric wants Sookie to love him for what he is, a vampire, a killer, a bloodsucker. He is right.
    I don’t think Eric was planning to dump Sookie. he even asks her to live in his house, that’s not something you do when you are trying to get rid of your lover. He is still trying to escape the marriage. Maybe, if he comes to the conclusion that he cannot avoid it, he will try to make Sookie hate him, so she suffers less. But I don’t think we are at that step yet.

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    LLE Reply:

    What happen if Eric and Sookie get into another fight and harms her and it going to happen again. This is a wake up call.

    CH was a rape victim and she will not have Sookie’S HEA that already hurt her and she was in so much pain and tear.

    Sure Eric want Sookie live with her but he was keeping his engagement to the Queen from her.

    When Sookie had bb she knew his emotions but when no longer bb she can’t read him at all.

    Eric could straight out tell Sookie that he has plans on marry the queen and finding time and way to get it out but he not doing that at all.

    Eric knew that he was hurting Sookie and he want her to walk way and he does not have to make the decision . Maybe at the last minute, he might tell Sookie that he will not marry the Queen or he going to tell Sookie that he putting her side.

    We know Eric loves her but what does he love more and we will find out the next book.

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    Mony Reply:

    It was not to let Sookie walk away AT ALL.
    In fact he searched her eyes and aksed “Tomorrow?” becouse they needed to talk. I really don’t know why people are freaking out about the bite. Sookie didn’t even was angry for that, while she was with Bill she was worried Eric might leave her but never mentioned the bite like he did an horrible thing or she felt it was THE END

    The day after, at the baby shower while thinking back at that night she only realized that THAT Sookie was the TRUE Sookie. NOT.A.MENTION.OF.THE.BITE.
    Not once, it doesn’t even crossed her mind becouse it’s was NOT a big deal for her.

    It’s WE, readers that are making it a big deal becouse we love some much to worry about something i think, and it’s pretty normal becouse that was the last time Sookie and Eric saw each other so i get why we might feel insicure now.

    But really, like CH said once on her blog, EL’s really like to create things to worry about LOL

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    LLE Reply:

    Sookie is victim of being abuse and she that with Bill. Alcide even had to tell her she was rape by Bill. Bill did a lot of abuse and she never mention to people or talk to them. Sookie always had very low-esteem about her because of two reason her gift and what her great uncle did to her and they both left scars.

    Now, If Eric did it get Sookie to walk way that be different story. But he did it in anger that sign that Sookie is repeating the same type relationship what she had with Bill. Sookie and Bill never mention the rape and he was never remorse all the bad thing he did to her and Sookie talk to him about it.

    Eric better give Sookie why he did it and if he did it anger it’s sign of controlled issues and is getting another Bill.

    Sookie deserves better

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    LLE Reply:

    Sookie has history of being abuse by her great uncle and Bill. Sookie has been drained and rape in the car trunk by Bill. Bill and Sookie never talk about him abusing her and it was a cycle. Sookie is an abuse victim and now Eric is starting to do it to her.

    Alcide was the one who told Sookie that she was rape and it was wrong of Bill.

    Eric and Sookie have to talk and why he did that to her and if he did it in anger. Sookie think twice of getting in relationship with some who abuse her.

    I hope Sookie get an self-esteem and don’t ever let another guy abuse her at all. Sookie needs professional help but I doubt she will go and get help.

    CH is a rape victim and no way will she let Sookie pick her HEA as an abuser and this a bomb to let us know that Eric is not Sookie’s HEA because of the bite. Eric has to have better explanation why he did it. I can’t see Sookie ever letting Eric drinking her blood again.

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    C.K. Reply:

    Also, when Sookie pulled on Eric’s ear he stopped immediatly. Naturally, he wouldn’t stop when Bill told him to because he doesn’t care what Bill says. Yes, Eric was being a bastard in that scene but I wouldn’t equate him to some “wifebeater”/potential “wifebeater”. There was another time when Eric grabbed Sookies shoulders to hard and she told him that he was hurting her so he let go. I am not condoning it but I think it is understandable given the stressful situation and lack of communication between them.

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    LLE Reply:

    Does that sound like controlled issues and he knew he was hurting her and he did not care.

    Sookie and Eric has to discuss why he did it and Sookie not turn a blind like she did with Bill’s abuse.

    CH is an victim of being abuse and noway would she had Sookie’s HEA being abuse to her.

    CH wrote this story to see the good side and bad side of Eric and is it worth staying in the relationship.

    The shoulder was that Eric did not know how strong he was and when Sookie told him she was hurt and let go.

    C.K. Reply:

    Good point SVB and Hime,

    Eric is used to being the Alpha so it would be emasculating for him to be with the queen. In the words of Spike, Eric would be her “whipping boy.” We have seen and Sookie has pointed out that Eric’s worst fear is the “loss of freedom”. It was sad to see what Eric devovled into when Appius arrived. He was a broken man. I know the show is different from the books but look at how Eric acted with QSA (in the show). I hated to see him that submisive.
    Eric can’t just ignore Freyda’s phone calls. Look show Eric did when Bill ignored his phone calls, he showed up in his house.

    Sookie has every right to be upset. In DITF, Eric said he wasn’t sleeping with Appius but he would have to if Appius wanted it. Sookie knows this but it doesn’t mean she understands, likes, or accepts it. If Eric did have to go through with the marriage Sookie would see it as a betrayl. She found out he met up with Fredya a couple times behind her back.

    Two heads are better than one. There are two people in that marriage so they need to make the decisions together. Sookie came up with the Victor plan so she might be able to come up with a solution. I think Eric realized that Sookie might want their marriage when he gaged her reaction. Eric wants her to verbally say that she wants it. Sookie is starting to feel inferior to Freyda so she might not speak up. Eric needs to spell out to Sookie even more that Freyda means nothing to him. They both need reaffirmation. Also, Eric needs to be more assertive with Sookie. For instance, he should have told her that it was not okay with him that she let Claude stay with her (Pam seems to point that out). Sookie needs to gain more confidence. During the bite scene Sookie did call Eric her lover her “Husband”.

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    LLE Reply:

    This story is not about Sookie loving Eric and fighting for him and she was in shock when she found out and her heart was very broken. Eric knew that but did he say that he will find a way out. No, he did not.

    This is about Eric and what comes first in his life and would he risk everything or career to be with Sookie. Eric has history of being an arrangement marriages and I can see him marrying the Queen. This reminds me of Bill in Club Dead. CH has ran out of ideals and repeating the same old stuff. Bill did not tell her anything and left her in the dark and now Eric did it. Pam told Sookie that Bill lied to her and now she left clues and had pity in her eyes about what Eric was going to do.

    Next book
    1. Will Eric and Sookie have a plan how to get out of the marriage
    2. Will Bill be Eric’s boss and Sookie pleads to Bill to get Eric from marry the Queen.
    3. Felipi stops the wedding
    4. Eric dumps Sookie and already left town and time line will be three months and Sookie is on mission about the fairies and finds out why they are interest in her house and solves the mysteries.

    Last Book
    Sookie uses the thing to save the HEA time line for that would be another 3 months.
    Sookie find outs that she thought where her friends are not really her friends.

    We really don’t know if Eric going to be in all her stories. I love to have Eric as Sookie’s HEA but I don’t trust CH and she could pick minor character for Sookie’s HEA.

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    Lyta Reply:

    Wow, for a moment I thought you were talking about Bill. I think you missed the whole point of the books, Eric has always protected Sookie, he saved her countless times, put your ass on the line for her several times (he lost more than gained in IMO, not that Sookie’s not worth it, is just a fact), and Sookie also saved him and helped him. He may have made ​​mistakes, but this does not invalidate everything he has done and who he is. He is still insecure, he said he was afraid that she did not want to know their problems and leave. He offered his house, his life, saying repeatedly that he wanted a real commitment among them, Is Sookie who always hesitated, for convenience, for fear of commitment , it’s Sookie who IMO is not quite ready to do it. If she wants a commitment “human” when just asking him to give him (I do not understand all this fuss about having a normal marriage, human, does not mean anything to me, then I might be biased).
    If Eric wanted a marriage or an alliance with a queen, someone who bring financial advantage and power to him, he would have already done so, he is beautiful, smart, strong and has a thousand years! and if he wants to sell himself as a “gigolo” would’ve done a long time ago, before met Sookie, not trying to get out of the commitment, which was imposed on him. Nobody asked Sookie to “save his ass, ” was her who called, who planned and used Bubba. She said I’m tired of hearing about overthrowing Victor, let’s do it (paraphrasing). As the bite think everyone agrees here that he was a dick, and Sookie was hypocritical (and no real thought of the consequences). I think the question not only with Sookie, but with fans of Eric is, are you in or are you out? if you think this is a dealbreaker OK, if not, just like Sookie’ll work on it (I think this is the goal of CH BTW)

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    C.K. Reply:

    When Eric expressed to Sookie that he feared she would leave him. It should have been a light bulb moment for Sookie. In that moment, she should have told him that she was afraid that he was going to leave her.

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    SacredmOOn Reply:

    I think also what Eric said to Sookie in DITF “I Love You” in a drained voice “You are my wife in the only way that matters to me” That should have been another wake up (Light Bulb) moment

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    northmanfan Reply:

    “Eric himself tells Sookie on page (253) “In the meantime, she (QoO) calls me every week, offering me a share of her kingdom if I’ll come to her.” Those are negotiations at least in the mind of the QoO. I do believe Eric is trying to get out of the marriage — but he’s also conflicted about doing what Appius arranged. (260) Eric is so old that arranged marriage was a norm for his time. He still thinks that way.”

    So you admit he’s trying to get out of the marriage despite the wishes/contract set by his master? I’m sorry, I still don’t see this as a betrayal. As others have pointed out, it’s not a good idea to ignore a queen and possibly the more he talks the faster he may find a loophole. I do scratch my head at him keeping the info from her, but I also suspect part of the reason he did is as you’ve quoted:
    “I know you’ve always insisted you weren’t my true wife, so presumable that would not be hard for you.”

    Maybe he’s afraid sookie would leave him if she got wind of this. Sookie told him in DAG that she doesn’t consider the marriage real. He told her in DitF that he considers her his wife in the only way that matters to him. I think that he has let her know he is committed to her. I do concede that he should ask her if she wants a human marriage. However, it might be best to wait for that stuff until after he’s figured a way out of formally marrying Freyda.

    “I agree with Pam. Eric has been a crapy husband and has so habitually kept Sookie in the dark about what she should know and not know — he’s put her life in danger…again.”

    How has eric put her in danger? He married her to keep her out of Nevada. Also, at this point, Sookie needs to be asking questions. Eric told her he would tell her more about the bond when she wanted to know (in DAG) and in DitF he actually CAME TO HER to try to explain more about their political system. I haven’t read DR, but did she ask him in depth questions about either the marriage or bond? I’m sorry, but to me some of this just seems like stuff that CH simply doesn’t want to explain rather than Eric being particularly secretive.

    As for the whole “balls” being in peoples’ “courts” thing, I’m with those who think it’s up to both of them.

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    Sherry Reply:

    One thing that I found very telling and important was the the post sex conversation in DAG. Eric doesn’t express his love for Sookie in this conversation about the marriage trick and the bonding. He says, “Felipe wanted you. The stronger our bond the less change he can maneuver you away.” Eric clearly wants her, we all know that. But he can’t even admit completely to anyone that he wants her for more than what Felipe wants. He gets super protective of her when he hears about the fairies and we know that his feels are deeper than just wanting her -but he still can’t admit to it.

    I’m also sure we get a hint of the end with Eric a couple of paragraphs later. Something she doesn’t say anything about with Bill or Alcide or Sam or Quinn. “This was a real treat, or at least one of the real treats -
    having someone with whom to share the days events. Eric was a good listener, at least in his post coital relaxed state.”

    I think the closest we come to a statement like that was the bit about cooking breakfast in the kitchen for Alcide but thats been remedied as she’s realized happiness and love isn’t about whats normal and because Alcide’s a douche.

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  • IATM

    Very True .. :-)

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  • Ericstruelav

    Hello everyone… I tried to post on the forum but couldn’t bc I forgot my username and I wanted to ask this question before I retrieve it. I’m not sure if this was asked before… Someone mentioned that Niall is gonna pay hard because of “gift wrap” when he sent a fairy to have sex w sookie, then someone mentioned about sookie possibly being fairy queen. I noticed at the end of DR she mentions that her pants fit tighter than before… Idk for certain when gift wrap takes place… But maybe sookie could be carrying an heir to the fairy throne? Maybe not bc then gift wrap happened before Eric and sookie got together….? But I thought that’s why Claude and dermot are hovering around her. Maybe I’m dumb. : /

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    C.K. Reply:

    Ericstruelav,

    The “Gift Wrapped” story took place on Christmas Eve/Christmas Day. I guess 5 or 6 months prior to Dead Reckoning. Gift Wrapped takes place after From Dead to Worse and before Dead and Gone. Eric and Sookie were moving towards a relationship but I don’t think they were together together. Sookie was enchanted when she slept with Preston and I don’t believe she ever would have done that if she wasn’t enchanted because she was moving towards a relationship with and waiting for that talk that she and Eric were supposed to have. Plus, Sookie doesn’t do one night stands. Many people do think that Claude or Dermot were sent to get Sookie pregnant.

    I hope that she doesn’t actually make Sookie prego with some hybrid fae baby because that would just completely ruin the Eric/Sookie relationship for me.

    No your not dumb. A lot of people didn’t read the short story so it is a little odd that she might have put it into the plot. I am not sure if Sookie will ever remember the Preston (I call it akin to date rape drug incident) but I think she is starting to get hazy memories of it one in DITF (something about the woods) and she mentions in DR that she is feels like she is on the verge of remembering something about Niall.

    I hope that helps.

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    C.K. Reply:

    Sorry I meant that a lot of people think that Cluade and Dermot might have been sent to get her Pregnant.

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    SacredmOOn Reply:

    Yeah she says something to the sort I keep feeling like I’m on a verge of remembering something, something about the woods and Naill something really trickey.

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    Serena Reply:

    Nope you’re not dumb. ;)

    CH has said that Sookie is not pregnant by Preston, and if Sookie has had sex with anyone off the page or in an Eric suit, I think she is largely cheating her readership, but I’m pretty confident she has not and will not do that. lol. However, though I don’t believe in the theory myself, it is possible that Niall’s motive for Claude’s involvement in her life at this point and the Preston incident could be to breed Sookie.

    It just has not .. erm… come to pass yet. >_<

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  • daisy

    sorry to rain on everyone’s parade, but i was a bit disappointed with this book. I found that some events like Sandra trying to kill sookie and alcide being naked in sookie’s bed are just examples of how charlaine put those characters and situations just to fill in the pages. And shouldn’t sookie be used to see things die in front of her. Doesn’t anyone recall the werewolf, fairy, and witch war from the previous books? As to sookie’s relationship with eric, we all no where it’s headed. We all have to face the reality that it’s dragging throughout the previous books and this one. They don’t communicate with each other well (no surprise) and I don’t think eric will spend much time with sookie in the next book due to his marriage contract.

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    pizpireta Reply:

    Hola daisy,
    When I came upon that part that Sookie arriving from a “great” night only to find Mr. Packleader on her bed, I nearly died!! Jessups, what malice Amanda has! To go all the way to the bar and publicize about the BB broken to get Alcide on to Sookie´s bed is wayyyy past a girlfriend should behave!!
    Talk about selling your friend to whoever is interested!
    She must have a motive, I´m sure she has. Afterall she´s Copley´s daughter, no?
    Love from the Canary Islands, Spain.

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    Jody Reply:

    Daisy – you and I are on a similar page. I am a huge fan of the series, but DR left me more confused than satisfied. I can’t quite put my finger on it, but Sookies character just seems at odds with herself. She plans the execution of Victor then acts like a jerk when the Vampires react to the victory. Her breaking the BB with Eric without telling him first just seemed so out of character for the Sookie I’ve come to know and love. I am hoping the next book will be a little more straightforward and not leave me feeling so confused.

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    daisy Reply:

    I also understand that many are mad at amelia for breaking the BB, but lets not forget that sookie agreed to it. Sookie isn’t so bright to be honest. she doesn’t think before she acts. She should have thought it through of what type of consequences it could bring if the BB is broken. I also didn’t like that amelia got into sookie’s personal business like telling alcide about the BB. she might as well announced it in front of the whole bar. Anyways, I hope the next book is better than this one.

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    LLE Reply:

    I am glad that Sookie is no longer bb with Eric. Sookie does missed the connection but relieve that it’s no there. Sookie now knows that what she feels for Eric is real not bb.

    Sookie has to learn to connected with Eric without the blood bond read his emotions without the bond.

    I doubt Sookie will ever be blood bond to any more vampires.

    Eric never discussed anything and left in her dark about the bb and good for Sookie to agree to it.

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    C.K. Reply:

    Eric said that he would tell Sookie about the blood bond when she was ready. He fully intended to tell her about the bond. He should have just told her the first time she asked about it. It is true probably if Sookie asked Eric to break the bond he would have said no. In some ways they can realx a little more without the bond. It was stressful for both of them to deal with double the emotions. Sookie did need to know for sure that she loved Eric.

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    LLE Reply:

    I can’t see Sookie going back to being bb to Eric. If two people in love really don’t need to be bb. They have to communicate to each other and they put each other first.

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    C.K. Reply:

    It’s good the blood bond was broken so now they have to start communicating and not relying on the feelings eminated from the blood bond. Maybe someday they will reform it by choice. I think its a possibility that Sookie could reform it someday. Not because she is forced into it but because she wants to and a part of her does miss it. CH had to have brought Bill’s failed blood bond up for a reason. It could have been to show a contrast between Eric/Sookie’s blood bond because Eric doesn’t control her with it. There good sides to the blood bond. If they are going to be a couple for a long time they are bound to swap blood again. Bottom line, they need to learn to communicate. I still think Pam should be their therapist. LOL.

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    daisy Reply:

    Hey guys, how weird was it when sam told sookie, “whatever Eric is to you, he’s not your better half.” Kind of makes you think that he knows something about eric. I hope eric won’t hurt her physically, which I doubt, but you never know. As for Pam, I felt sorry for her that she couldn’t make a “vampire child,” but I hope that she still remains in contact with sookie if eric decides to marry the Queen of Oklahoma.

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    C.K. Reply:

    I thought that was odd too but I guess considering Sam dislikes Eric it shouldn’t be surprising.

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    Serena Reply:

    I didn’t think it weird per se, I thought he came off as jealous. It was rather an assy thing to say to your friend’s boyfriend, shows a real lack of respect of your friend and employee. What does it matter to him who she dates? He should keep his mouth shut even if Eric has a big bad, which I don’t thinks the case but no matter. Sookie doesn’t go up to Jannalyn and say anything to her about not being a good match for Sam. If Sam really feels that Eric’s no good, he should tell Sookie in private why. But he doesn’t.

    I don’t see this Oklahoma business as a matter of Eric’s decision, its really out of his hands and in Felipe’s.

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    C.K. Reply:

    I hope Sookie tells Sam off in the next book if he makes some snide remark about Eric. Sookie did seem taken aback when Sam made that douchbag remark. I am sure he wa jealous. Sam says he would rather Sookie go out with anyone but Eric. I guess Sam would be fine with Sookie being in some loveless relationship as long as she’s not with Eric. Didn’t Sam try to encourage her to go out with Calvin and breed his werepanther babies. Sam got on my nerve a little in this book show some respect.

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    daisy Reply:

    It’s a little ironic that Sam didn’t have much of a problem with Bill/Sookie but he does with Eric.They both bring alot of drama into Sookie’s life. Or maybe he is just fed up that sookie isn’t showing alot of interest in him.

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    SVB Reply:

    I don’t see this Oklahoma business as a matter of Eric’s decision, its really out of his hands and in Felipe’s.

    EXACTLY. I keep seeing references to Eric’s “decision” and what Eric will “choose” to do about OK – he has no choice. This is an arranged marriage and he’s already made it clear that he doesn’t want it, but that’s it’s gone too far for him to get out of it unless someone intercedes on his behalf.

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    LLE Reply:

    Eric better come up with a plan or solution to get out of the marriage. It’s up to Eric to make the decision but give in and marry the Queen then not the right guy for Sookie.

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    daisy Reply:

    oh don’t get me wrong people, I also agree that sookie did the right thing to break the blood bond because she wanted to test her true feelings for eric. But I just think that there could be some consequences as to sookie being in some kind of severe danger in the future and no one will know where she is.
    I think Sookie is not so smart when it comes to picking boyfriends. She didn’t know much about Bill, Quin and now Eric. Three strikes your out. LOL
    The only option she has now is to be with Sam or one of the fairies.

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    LLE Reply:

    I would not trust the fairies at all. I would not trust Sam either because he hiding something from her and is he friend or foe.

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    Mony Reply:

    She knows Eric pretty well, as she said many times in this book. She may not know everything in his life but she has her own secrets too. There are so similar that is quite embarassing lol :D

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    daisy Reply:

    It’s also kind of obvious that sookie won’t end up with any vampire because she always complains about the cons of being with bill/eric on the previous books, “I will never be able to make him breakfast, visit him at work, grow old with him, blah blah blah.”
    I know everyone wants or thinks there will be HEA with eric/sookie in the end, but that is such a cliche. We got to be realistic like I stated earlier.

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    daisy Reply:

    There could be an alternative that might work. The QoO can marry Felipe. After all, he is the King of Louisiana. I know it’s a long shot but it would be a great relief for eric. Don’t you guys think so?

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    daisy Reply:

    I also wouldn’t trust any fairies, but who else would Sookie end up with if Eric can’t get out of his marriage contract. Plus CH said that she isn’t team eric/bill, but maybe she is trying to make us think otherwise.

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    LLE Reply:

    When was last time Bill had a story. Book three when Sookie went search for Bill. Eric has so many stories but Bill has one. CH has difficult time writing for Bill and no problem with Eric. Book one, Bill did not have a story it was all about Sookie getting a vampire boyfriend and book two Bill did not have a story either.

    Eric is going to get out of marry the Queen.

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  • Hootiecat1

    Disingenuous? Sounds like Sookie’s word of the day…LMAO

    Charlain Harris is an incredible MYSTERY WRITER. She has totally blindsided me until this book.
    I categorized her Southern Vampire Mysteries series as humorous, fun-filled, fanciful, southern white-trash romance novels, with a dash of supernatural thrown in.

    Charlain’s “Sookie” books are all those things, but with Dead Reckoning she has proven beyond a doubt what a great mystery author she really is. Ms. Harris has amped up the heat that’s has all her fans diving back into a re-read of all the books, myself included. Me-I feel like mud splattered against a wall, DR proves CH could take us in several directions…

    The mystery is: What will Sookie do? On so many levels?

    Ms. Harris has subtly developed her characters to the point of humanity, where you love them, or hate them, I refuse to capitalize bill’s name. Not knowing where or what actions any of her character will take — everyone is all over the map. MYSELF INCLUDED — LMAO if you’ve read any of my previous post, you’ll know I’ve changed my predictions/guesses or even what I think from day to day.
    My new one today is: Sam’s Fae too and has been spying on Sookie for years?
    I haven’t a clue of what Sookie will do about Eric, the Cluviel Dor, or who’s her HEA. I want it to be Eric — but damn it may not be. I don’t want to hear any excuses for Eric – he has to be responsible for what he does or doesn’t do. (he’s a grown ass man)
    Everyone is questioning every bit and piece not only whats written in the books but clues from Harris’s interviews & book signings.

    Is Pam Sookie’s only friend? Looks like she’s the only one that will tell Sookie the truth, even if her maker Eric beats her up. Every Supe wants to own a piece of Sookie’s ass. Amelia’s a witch so she does too. As Mr. C says to Sookie in his email, “You’re the only person I know who has as many enemies as I.”

    I love everyone’s comments, insights and opinions — this is one hell of a ride Ms. Harris…

    Thank god she writes one book a year!!!! (I have big frustration with George RR Martin)

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    suiyoubi Reply:

    Ditto about George RR Martin :P

    About your Sam theory, I’ll add to that, maybe he is some kind of records keeper or something. Everybody seems to know/assume that of something happens, Sam will know about it (doctor in DAG, I forgot her(er, his) name) and that library sorts he mentioned in DR.

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    northmanfan Reply:

    “Not knowing where or what actions any of her character will take — everyone is all over the map.”

    For me as a reader , this is NOT a good thing. It explains why I’ve been scratching my head at and questioning some of the things she has the characters do though, and unfortunately it takes me right out of the story.

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    C.K. Reply:

    I agree that some of these char are all over the place, I think that is a part of the reason that peoples opinion go back and forth. Like with Amelia I don’t know if she has always been out to get Eric or if someone has been influencing her. I go back and forth. Just like I can go on about Eric’s faults but I can go on about Sookies faults too. I go back and forth on some stuff too. People have said this book is a “rollercoaster ride” and it was.

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  • kejrol

    I was rather shocked that Amelia hates Sookie being with Eric so much. I thought she was rather supportive of their relationship. She was the one who made Sookie admit outloud that she loves him and told her to stop hiding behind the BB. She was always asking how the things were going between them and never voiced any objections. Or thought any objections for that matter.

    My initial reaction when I read that Amelia went blabbing that the BB between Sookie and Eric is broken, was “What the hell! If this news gets to Victor, Sookie’s that much easier to kill”. I was suprised that Sookie never even thought that Amelia’s not only causing touble in her relationship with Eric but can also get her killed. And maybe that was kind of the point… I don’t think it was Amelia’s perpose but maybe Bob’s just using Amelia. It’s just weird, last time we saw Bob he couldn’t get away from Amelia fast enough and now they’re together and sooooo happy?
    Maybe Bob did use some kind of spell on Amelia or maybe he didn’t really have to (she was kind of an easy target, alone, grieving and really regretting the whole “sex gone cat” thing). It seems obvious to me that he has some ulterior motive and I’m just wandering what it might be. So far I came up with
    A/ he’s working for someone who wants Eric sans Sookie, and the obvious pick would be Victor. A less obvious is Oklahoma.
    B/ he wants to get some kind of revenge on Amelia and maybe pushing her to cause trouble for Sookie and breaking their frendship was a part of his plan.
    C/ A and B combined.

    I also wonder why Oklahoma want’s to marry Eric (aside from the obvious – it’s Eric :P ). Sure he’s smart, politally savvy, old, a great fighter and a great vampire and a very effective sheriff but only sheriff. If she marries Eric she’s closing her door for another alliance for a hundred years, so I would think that she would seek a more advantageous marriage – like with a king. Especially if she’s preparing to attack FDC’s tripple kingdom. Unless ofcourse she’s planning to take Luisiana and make Eric a king of it, but it seems like counting chickens before they’re hatched a queen should be wiser then that.
    From what I read in the above post’s (however I haven’t read all of them yet, there’s so many of them) some of you think that Freyda is counting on Eric bringing Sookie as a wedding present but I’m not so sure… Ocella started the negotiations before he came to Luisiana in DITF and that’s when he found out about Sookie. He could have inform Freyda of a blood bound telepathic wife during the time he spent at Eric’s but I presume that the negotiations were already advanced at this point so what was in it for Freyda before that?
    Even if Ocella had some way of knowing that Eric is blood bound with a human, what with them all sharing blood, he couldn’t possibly imagine that she was a telepath unless he somehow investigated the matter further from afar (via a spy probably). But than when he came to Sookie’s house and met her he had to see that the BB doesn’t work like they usually do. She wasn’t submitted to Eric, she had free will, she can’t be glamored, so there was really no way for him to predict if she would follow Eric to Oklahoma.

    I guess what I’m trying to say is that altough I loved this book it left me really confused. I can’t figure out Freyda’s motives, nor Bob/Amelia’s motives. And I haven’t even touched on all the fae related stuff that make me wonder. CH is a master of answering our questions and than leaving us with more questions than before… I want the next book already! ;)

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    LLE Reply:

    Sookie should have a meeting with Amelia and ask her why she hates Eric or does have information that Sookie does not know. I will tell Amelia that they are no longer friends because she betray her by telling everyone about the bb.

    Amelia is a air head and she never uses her head or someone giving her information or she doing it to help her daddy.

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    C.K. Reply:

    This was defintely a book filled with mysteries. The Amelia thing really confuses me too. I want to believe that it was not all her because I really did like Amelia before this book. IDK Eric said she alway wanted to get rid of him. I mentioned before Pam and Eric could know more about Amelia that we don’t. I am sure Eric probably did his research.

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    LLE Reply:

    Sookie should talk to Amelia and find out the truth and whom Amelia is working for. The person whom is being Sookie’s best friend is Pam and watching over Sookie and cares for Sookie.

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    SacredmOOn Reply:

    yeah remember during the takeover and Eric was talking to Amelia telling her he knows who she is and her father. And Sookie thinks whose been doing some research on the internet, Eric and Cope have the internet and reseach in common. Something to that sort.

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  • Hootiecat1

    Oops! Sorry if my comments have upset you…I’m upset too. This is my first trip into falling in love with a fictional character. (well maybe besides Rhett Butler-did Eric ever see GWTW?) Ms. Harris is a powerful author and one of the best “Story Teller’s” I’ve come across in years. I was born in the south-not far from where Ms. Harris lives, so her nuances as a Story Teller is what I cut my teeth on.

    I love the Northman — no doubt about it. I want Eric to be and do the right thing – I hate waiting a year to see if he will. But can a leopard change his spots? Does a gorilla eat bananas? Does a bear shit in the woods? Eric is what her is…a vampire…FOOF.

    One of the fine truths in DR was spoken by Mr.C. when Sookie asked. “Was it a coincidence that Hadley ended up with the Queen?” “Not really, because she is part fairy, and as you know, part fairy is very attractive to vampires.” “It was only a matter of time before a vampire came into the bar and saw you.” Because of her birth Sookie didn’t, never would, have a chance of a “normal” life. In ATD when Sookie and Berry were talking to Mr.C. about the bombing, hiding in the hotel. Sookie’s thinking. “Something hardened inside of me, like Andre (forced BB) the advantage Andre had taken of me, everyone would want to own me.” Sookie questioned her obligations even to the human agencies. “I won’t do it.” Is how Sookie felt about it. She wanted her own life. Sookie knew that she had already lost her freedom, regardless of Eric stepping in — it made sense for her to never question Eric too deeply about the BB or marriage Eric forced her into. Sookie was very clear when she told Eric what she thought of both issues – she didn’t like it – Eric knew it. She was tied to a being who thought nothing of torturing his own human workers and had already threatened to torture her and people she loved -Eric- who was not only very strong and dangerous but intelligent and politically savvy in the human/vampire world. (Sook was scared many times) Sookie went underground with her feelings & thoughts what she would/could share with Eric. Much like any slave would react to a master. VERY CAREFULLY.
    The one thing Sookie didn’t expect was to find something to love in the big Viking Vampire. Probably Eric was even more appalled that he fell in love with his little McPeople, considering vampire culture. Neither Sookie or Eric would find it easy to communicate and trust each other in their relationship. Eric opinion of humans is no secret nor is Sookie’s about vampires.
    Neither of them have granted equality to each other – sometimes love is not enough.
    CH was is subtly pulling in their irreconcilable differences. 3 pages (149-151) Sookie was really trying to talk to Eric, tell him what mattered to her. When he was stoney faced she would try to back track, make him understand – he didn’t get it, because he just basically can not give equality to a human – or can conceive that humans are not owned, should be treated with respect. Do I blame him – NO – Eric is a predator, vampires live on humans always have. (remember in DTTW their conversation regarding lions) There is no doubt in my mind that Sookie loves Eric, but vampires in general are not on the same page. I would love to see our Eric, who is the most open vampire of Sookie’s acquaintance, come over and get what loving our Sookie could be. They are so alike personality wise.

    The breaking of the BB was harsh (thanks to Amelia who also wants a piece of Sookie’s ass-we don’t know why yet) but the BB had to be broken for Sookie to be free, to make the choices she needs and will make. Sookie is no push-over, Victor needed to die and our girl planned and used what ever was needed to get the deed done — Sook wants to live and she wants Eric and Pam to live, she loves them.

    I believe Eric understood Sookie’s reaction perfectly after the fight at Fangtasia. She knew he did, that’s why she accepted her part of his painful bite. Eric’s question of “Tomorrow?” and him searching her face? Sookie’s soul searching and apathy after accepting her guilt — then having to kill Sandra Pelt? Poor thing–this is her life – the life of a rare telepath. Maybe Eric was letting her go, with that bite he does love her. IDK…

    Bye the way did anyone else pick-up on the fact that Stan was a Sheriff in LDID, but by the time he got to Rhodes he was King of Texas?? (he has Barry-a rare telepath)

    Well dang we just have to wait for the next book.

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  • addicted2sookie

    Finished the book last night. Loved it. Question: Does anyone else think maybe FDC will want Eric to marry Queen of OK, so that he can have Sookie for himself? Even though I think he won’t care much about Victor’s death. He could use the execution of Victor as a reason not to honor Eric’s request to stay in LA with Sookie. If Sookie is forced to go to Las Vegas maybe we will see Quinn again in the next book.

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  • Hootiecat1

    P.S.

    Please do not think that I have negated all the wonderful thoughtful ways Eric has expressed love. He has saved Sookie’s life too on numerous occasions. I get why he did the knife trick – so does Sookie, it saved her from FDC. (too bad she didn’t understand it was the bond not the marriage) In DITF both Sookie & Eric were beginning to feel like an old married couple who knew how and what buttons to push to get the big Viking off his ass to take care of Appius/Alexei problem.

    To choose between Sookie & Eric — would be like “the pot calling the kettle black, as relationship screw ups go.” But when it comes to planning & killing they are a pretty damn HOT duo together, if you throw in Pam.

    The thing I see, is that Eric is now being used by the vampire’s and manipulated as much as Sookie, No I don’t think he likes it…welcome to Sookie’s world Eric – you big hunk.

    After Rhodes — every supe and Vampire King and Queen knows Eric is Sookie’s handler — now husband.
    Eric must know that his ass is no safer than Sookie’s — and yes Oklahoma & Appius had heard of Eric/Sookie.

    What would it be like for the three of then to go rogue???

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  • jfozz

    Hi all,
    just thinking about FDC’s reaction to Eric killing Victor. I wondered about FDC promising Sookie protection, and Victor not honoring that promise. He probably wont care too much and Eric can always say that V attacked Sookie, as the only witnesses to the act are Eric’s people.
    FDC had better watch himself, or he may find himself on Sookie’s shit list too. Go Sookie!

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  • eddy

    just been thinking about Amelia’s high handedness.

    Starting from when Sookie first met her, she unlocked the apartment door in New Orleans, and woke her up by nipping her toe, they hadn’t even met then and she was doing stuff like that all ready.
    In DAG she tried to get Sookie dated to Drake /?Dermot and was indiscrete in telling secret stuff about Sookie to him.
    I know what she did in DR was more than meddling but she has a past history for it.
    About her getting loved up with Bob so soon after Trey, she has a history of this also,
    Pam.
    Dirtysheet man one night stand in Hotshot.
    Trey.
    RE how she and Sam seemed to be close,remember she worked part time for him on occaission when Sookie was out of town so although she is more meddling than normal I think shes not in a conspiracy.

    In the Alcide incident all the other players are behaving almost normally, except for Alcide , why on earth would he ever do something like that given his previous behavior to Sookie, as in almost monklike!, apart from the I wish we could be together moans.
    I mean imagine Jo M jumping out of bed in a THONG /MANIKINI- see it does’nt work does it?!!!!

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    LLE Reply:

    Amelia wanted Sookie to date a guy that looks like Sookie’s brother. How sick is that. I am glad that Sookie did tell her that she in relationship with Eric. Amelia was never a friend to Sookie at all.

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    C.K. Reply:

    Eddy, I forgot about some of that stuff Amelia did. I forgot that she worked for Sam too. That did seem really out of char. for Alcide. Either Amelia is a crapy friend or she is a crapy friend who is up to something.

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  • Tina

    I have loved the relationship between Sookie and Eric, who is such a fun, strong character. Regretfully, the vampire politics and so much danger and fighting seem to have eroded much of what I love about their relationship. I can understand why Eric didn’t tell Sookie about his possible marriage, especially since he’s trying to get out of it, but for my life, I can’t understand why she broke the blood bond. I have a feeling that the author is planning a break up between these two and I’m getting mad about that. Eric ripping violently into Sookie’s neck was out of character. He’s always been protective of her and wouldn’t want to cause her pain.

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  • Hootiecat1

    That whole episode with Sookie being naked in bill’s hide-hole — a give away to all the bill lovers, maybe, but also a way to set up Sookie’s lack of feeling for bill other than humor and friendship. Also clarifying bill’s personality and how he uses Sookie to dump his women.

    I also think that the incident shows Sookie’s fae/human mixture more clearly. Sookie appears to have more in common with Jason’s ability to attract human lovers with his fae blood, only Sookie’s attractions are from the Supernaturals in her life. Sookie’s fae need to never quite let go of her power over her past lovers?

    It seems to me that Claudine did this same kind of charming on all human males she could find. Always flirting with everyone in Merlotte’s. Claudine even did it in DTTW with the Were’s and vamps, even using magic to change her clothes. Come to think of it Claude does it all the time too, only in his case – he takes his clothes off.

    The naked Sookie with bill could be just one more indication that Sookie is becoming more fae from her association with her fae kin living with her — she even noticed that Bellenos was looking her over while she wore bill’s great aunts table cloth, wondering if he was getting an eye-full as she led him upstairs to wounded Dermot.
    LOL…
    Till Bellenos told her to get dressed….

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    Northwoman Reply:

    I think Bellenos didn’t ask Sookie to cover up because he couldn’t stand the sight of her…on the contrary. She just got it wrong, IMO.

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  • foofie

    Seriously, this book made me bummed out.

    Is Amelia the new Jason? She certainly did some outright stupid stuff, so much so that I’m pretty convinced she’s not a good witch at all.

    I’m doubting Alcide was truly Alcide too. Who wears mankinis? Strippers. Alcide is pretty dumb too, but not dumb enough to just wait in Sookie’s bed in a thong. No way it was him. He knows her well enough to realize what he would get rejected for a stunt like that.

    I can’t even comment on the whole Eric/Sookie thing. It just depresses me.

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  • AlphaEN

    Hello, dear bloggers,
    So many wonderful questions and answers. Don’t you guys think we are overdoing this a little? Personally, I do not believe that CH even though this deep about her own story and characters. It took her two years to write DR, and IMO it could have been a much better job. It is the least complete of all books in the series so far. Is she going to have Eric and Sookie break up? Maybe (*crying*). Bill? He was just a filler, someone to compare Eric to, to make a point – Sookie loves her boyfriend. Marriage? Eric told Sookie in the previous books that they would talk about it any time she wanted to; she was the one who didn’t want to dig into it. She does not have enough guts to ask the questions. He is a 1000 y o vamp, he told her in the car on the way to Victor’s bar it was hard for him to break the habit and start sharing. Does she really expect he will spill his guts to her?
    Yeah, she is growing up, but in what direction? And, pardon me, but finding a letter from her Gran in an old piece of furniture she had dug out from the attic – that is lame… CH could have thought of something more inventive and fresh. This was soooo predictable, and one thing we all love about these books – they are anything but.
    I read DR once. I was so upset, and finding this thread and reading some of your excellent comments made me feel much better. I am not spending another minute trying to find a deeper meaning when there is probably none. It is simple, to me. Aside from the interesting supernatural mysteries, the major storyline is Sookie’s life. She has to find her true self before she succeeds in a relationship with a man. She has always felt inadequate when it comes to Eric. She has major blinders on. She doesn’t want to think that he needs validation, too, that he cares about power only enough to be free and enjoy his life WITH HER. Until she gets that through her lovely thick scull, she will not fight for him. CD is a bomb shell, I am convinced that CH will use it to shake us all up in the end. Other than that, there are too many possibilities for CH to develop the plot from here on.
    Nothing left but to wait for the next installment. Meanwhile, there is always good fanfiction, and I have read some very very good stories out there, with a creative and intriguing approach to Eric, Sookie, Bill, Pam, and others. They have inspired me to write a story of my own, and I have to say that it is the best outlet for the pent up frustration from the book so far.

    P.S. and since then sex with Eric has become ‘monkey’-sex? Didn’t seem like monkey sex when they first did it, or when they re-started their relationship (after Bill and Quinn’s little fight). Maybe, it’s just me, but Sookie’s referral to it us such didn’t make sense to me. Inconsistencies, inconsistencies…

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  • FemmeScorpio

    sook is more fae than she’s willing to open her eyes and see. she is a total horndog. i just re-read the boooks and this girl thinks about boinking and appreciating men’s bodies more than the average bear.

    so yeah, she’s totally way more claudine than she realizes.

    and shifty shifter is shifty. i just could not stand sam’s hatin’ ass in this book. even when remy wanted her to babysit hunter, he reminded her she had to work… in a bar that doesn’t even have many customers since the bombing. instead of saying: take the day off and bond with your new found family, he found a way to hate on remy. dude, it’s a kid. let her spend time with him and STFU.

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  • Estrella

    After pondering…no, nitpicking-wallowing-morelike it…I felt I had to come back here and vent. Sookie is officially annoying the PISS out of me! I understand the curveballs and pain she’s been thrown, but she trusts the wrong people and questions the people who have done the most for her.

    It pains, me, but i wouldnt even Blame Eric if he just decided to say “fuck her” after everything he has done for her, all the risks he has taken (IS taking), questionable alliances he’s made, loyalties , she still questions him, keeps things from him, cuts the fucking bond, and turns all hypocrite on him when taking out VM was essentially to protect them-HER.

    someone talk me down from this one, because i’m so annoyed with her i think she deserves to live her life in obscurity listening to the inner and outer mindless drivel of a redneck husband and screaming babies after coming coming home from a dead end waitress job.

    *no offense to married waitress moms, but my point being, if you had had the chance to have been so much more and be happy….and conciously threw it away when you didnt have to…just because it wasnt conventional…

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    LLE Reply:

    If you have this much hate for Sookie, why do you read the books? It’s Sookie Stackhouse series not Eric stories.

    Eric has kept things from Sookie too and he did not bother to tell her that he engage to the Queen and not is fault at all.

    I don’t blame Sookie for breaking the bb and she free of it and sure she missed reading Eric’s emotions but she relief that is gone.

    Eric treats Sookie like a child and he should had told her about the bb and the marriage in the first place and let Sookie make the decision of marrying Eric.

    It’s both of there faults for lack of communications.

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    Estrella Reply:

    its not hate for her, its annoyance with her actions and attitude…and his too…and my general impatience with wanting to know WTF is going to happen…lol

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    Estrella Reply:

    and honestly, her attitude at the end of the battle WAS just childish and hypocritical. THEY won..both of them…what they wanted, and she was kidding herself if she thought it wasnt going to be bloody.

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    LLE Reply:

    Sookie is no longer under any vampire influences and she does not like to see bloody thing. I am the same way. I turn my head. I am so glad that CH had Sookie reacted that way because she still human and shaken up by it. I don’t blame her not feeling happy about evil people dying at all. Christian is still in Sookie and I hope she still believes in God and still pray.

    Sure, Sookie wanted him dead but she did not enjoy the killing. If Eric could not understand that, maybe they are not right for each other and he should go and marry the Queen. If Eric does marry the Queen, Sookie will go with her life and find someone else. Eric might be happy to have more power but he stuck with the Queen and he looses his freedom.

    Either Eric has some backbone or he going to loose Sookie. If Eric marry the Queen, Eric become weak character.

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    AlphaEN Reply:

    Sorry, LLE, I disagree. Sookie will always be part of vamp world and they can influence her plenty – not Eric, but other vamps will do anything to get her to comply and have no qualms about it. I don’t really need to say that pledging thing was done for her own protection, she understood that on her own.
    Eric has done a lot of her, and so has she for him, true. But when they killed VM, he wasn’t all happy because ‘yeey, blood!’. He was FREE. HE had right to rejoyce. He got rid of a very dangerous enemy – his, Pam’s, Sookie’s, Sam’s (ruining Merlotte’s business). He is 1000yo, can we really expect his decisions to be simple and plain? He must have dozens of reasons to do what he does. He has never given up on Sookie. It would be real sad if she did because of this unwanted marriage. Eric didn’t give up when she was with Bill, and then with Quinn. Sookie needs to make a decision – whether she wants to be with him, or not. True love is unconditional. If she really wants him, they will find a way to work things out. In all 11 books I can’t remember a time when they really had an honest-to-God converstaion, and those they had while he was suffering from amnezia don’t really count, because he wasn’t himself, and it was before the takeover and VM situation.
    This is SS story, not Eric. But he is a big part of her life. He is a reflection of her worries, insecurities, and he is an object of her actions. She hurts him with her rude words, but he takes it. She insults him defying the marriage over and over. Who knows? If she took a stand sooner and claimed him as her husband, it may have been more difficult for others to demand a piece of Eric’s gorgeous butt. Until she figures out what she really wants and takes the risks of going after the one man who cares about her, she is doomed to be torn apart with her inner dilemmas.

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    LLE Reply:

    I know Sookie going to be in the supe world and she not leaving it.

    Eric really did not give Sookie any choices about the marriage and bb and he should had told her his plans before the wedding and she would had agree with it.

    Has Eric ever ask Sookie what she considers a marriage, Eric has never ask her it. If Eric purpose to Sookie, Sookie could accept her marriage purpose.

    Right now, she is starting to think of Eric has her husband.

    Guess what she still has her christian vales in her and change it. If Eric did not tell Sookie about his coming marriage, Eric would had done the same thing to Sookie.

    Sookie was very much in pain with the bite and she had tears and if Eric bit her because he was anger at her and wanted to punished her that is call abuse and the next time it will get worst.

    Sookie and Eric better talk about their relationship or they both should breakup and Eric go and marry the Queen. Sookie will be happy at the end of the series no matter if it is Eric or someone else.

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    AlphaEN Reply:

    Eric did what he thougth he had to do. He is not perfect, and no one is saying that he is. But at least he has guts to make a decision and stick to it. Sookie’s iffy attitude to their relationship leaves him no room. She does not accept the marriage, but appreciates the protection it has given her. That is double standard. And who is to say that Eric has to be the one to run after her all the time? She should own up to her sh**t. I wish her HEA, but if she can’t grow up and face her own demons, she will never have one – with or without Eric.

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    LLE Reply:

    Sookie would had like to ask about being marry. Eric keep her in the dark and because he was afraid he would loose her.

    They both need to communicate with each other but they are not doing it and they are both at fault. If they can’t communicate then they should breakup, when series ends Sookie will be happy but then I don’t know if Eric going to be happy.

    Sookie has save Eric life plenty of times and she not the type of person that she wants every guy to save her. Sookie is very good at saving herself. Eric has save her in the past.

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  • FemmeScorpio

    nah, sook pissed me off in this book too. she was a complete hypocrite throughout the whole book. she’s teh first person to say: we need to kill victor. then plans it and uses every pawn she can find to accomplish it.

    beech please!! you did not just get mad that eric & pam are glad to be free of victor.

    you didn’t give quinn a chance since he couldn’t put you first. then, eric does just that and you trust everyone but him. he protected the hell out of your ass before you two were ‘married’ and now that you are for all intents & purposes his wife, you deny him that.

    she was acting too much likek TB sook (i loathe TB sook).

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    AlphaEN Reply:

    FemmeScorpio,
    Amen to that! Blank, to the point. She will trust everyone but Eric. Any relationship is a give and take. She may have her inner battle over right and wrong of killing VM, Sandra, or whoever, but why does Eric have to pay for that? It’s her own problem, not his. He has no promblem surviving, because he has accepted everything – including undeath, and especially freedome – has a price. He has paid it for 1000 years.

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    C.K. Reply:

    Sookie tells Eric that they are so different and he went “What?”. Sookie and Eric may have very different backgrounds but she is so much like him and just can’t see it yet. Like others people have mentioned she was just as “high handed” in this book as Eric. Some others mentioned that she used Bubba just like Eric used Terry. I mentioned before that Eric is stuck paying for what Bill did to Sookie. Whether she realizes it or not those scars are still there. If Sookie wants to be with Eric she needs to accept all of him and not just the parts she likes or the person she wants him to be. It’s understandable that Sookie was overwhelmed by the battle. However, she was a hypocrite and she aknowledged it. They both have a lot to think and talk about. Sookie did refer to Eric as her “husband” in that scene. Sookie does doubt Eric. Eric should have told Sookie the truth about Fredya on his own. Eric has put a lot on the line for Sookie.

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    AlphaEN Reply:

    The only explanation of why Eric hid the marriage thing from Sookie that I can think of is this: he is not sure she will want him after taht. She questions their union too much. She questions him, defies him, demands so much from him, but does she return the favor? It is possible that Eric doubted she will stick around if she finds out. Maybe, it is too much of an uncertainty for him. If I were in his shoes, I’d think twice before confiding in Sookie, because she is always looking for ways out of their marriage. And she means a lot for him; his actions has spoken louder than any words. He is not perfect, again, but neither is she.

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    C.K. Reply:

    I get that and he did admit that a part of the reason that he didn’t want the bb broken was because he was afraid that she would leave him. I understand why didn’t didn’t tell her and your right he probably thought she would leave him. Eric does need validation too and Sookie doesn’t realize how much it hurts him when she “belittles” their marriage but her concept of marriage has been different from his and she has to learn to adjust. If Eric asked Sookie to marry him human style she probably would have said know to. Sometimes its lose lose for Eric when it comes to Sookie. Nope neither of them are perfect. They are both to blame for different things. Sookie does like to run. I think she had good reason to dump Bill and Quinn. I think she will fight for Eric. It takes almost losing him to get her to wake up.

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    AlphaEN Reply:

    Hey, C.K.,
    So glad you said it, I hope she fights for him. He is the only one who has always been there for her, even when he himself didn’t know he had feelings for her. The only time he really tricked her was in Dallance, when he made her take his blood. But I believe he did it because he simply wanted to feel her. And being a selfish vampire, it is understandable why he didn’t want to break the bond – because he could feel her love for him through it, when she wouldn’t speak of it. I wouldn’t want to give something so precious either.

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  • Hootiecat1

    I was thinking what I’d do if I was Sookie and had a Cluviel Dor.

    I would give him the gift of Supernatural telepathy with my Cluviel Dor wish.

    I love Eric and would want him to make his own decisions about me and the Queen of Oklahoma. To chose between me and the Queen.
    What better way than to give him the power to see what’s behind Appius’s deal with the Queen — That would settle Appius’s interfering influence once and for all in Eric’s life. If Eric didn’t choose me (Sookie) I’d let him go, but still have given someone I love a gift that would make their long life – a life of freedom that Eric loves.

    If Eric could read all Supernatural minds. He’d know why the Queen of Oklahoma wants him and what Appius and the Queen were after and why. That way no vamp King or Queen could pull a fast one on Eric. All vamps would be an open book for Eric — he could protect himself.

    Not only would Eric become politically savvy real quick, but even a better fighter. Also it would give him more insight of how it is for Sookie. Then if he wanted to become King for the political freedom it would give him – he could and he’d be able to read any plans if other vamp kings & queens had plans to use him as a target or take over his kingdom.

    If Eric kept the telepathy secret — the vamps and Supe’s would just think he was really smart or had real good spies. Reading Fae minds (all supe’s) would be a good idea too, it would keep Sookie safe from their tricks.

    If he could read Sookie’s mind – no problem communicating anymore…LMAO

    That’s what I want Sookie to do with the Cluviel Dor!!!!!!!

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    C.K. Reply:

    Sookie doesn’t see telepathy as a good gift. I don’t think she would want to give Eric what she considers a burden. He would have an advantage over other vampires. I don’t know that Eric would want to hear people’s thoughts all the time it would drive him nuts. Someone would be bound to find out. They tried to keep Sookies fae heritage a secret yet people know about that. There would be pros and cons to it. It’s a good idea though. I think it would be nice if she used it on Pam. I have no clue what that cluviel dor will be used for but I am still a little worried about it.

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    AlphaEN Reply:

    Sookie said her middle name was survival. She will either use it for that, or to free Eric. I just want to see the real Sookie for once: strong, clever, self-reliant woman who is not afraid to fight for what’s hers. She has all those qualities, but when it comes to Eric’s love for her, she is lost. I mean, he’s got the looks, the brain, the appeal, and all, but she is no simpleton either. For the life of me, I can’t understand why she is still waitressing ungrateful and hateful people. Here is an idea: use CD to remove the blinders off her eyes! See things and people for what they really are, including herself. Nah… wishful thinking.

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    Hootiecat1 Reply:

    Hi C.K.
    I had in mind the CD wish would be for Eric to only read Supernatural minds. Yeah, … to Sookie it’s always been a burden – but I think most of that has been because she didn’t fit in with humans – now we know she never had a chance to be human, as Mr.C said “it was just a matter of time before a vamp walked into the bar.” Also Sookie didn’t have anyone to help her with the telepathy as a child, (like she’s helping Hunter) most of the time she thought she really was nuts. Bill was able to help her control her telepathy in the first few books — she started being able to block people out.

    She could teach Eric how to block out thoughts too. Eric would probably not like it at first, but what a way for him to see Sookie for what she is…right now he really only thinks of Sookie as HUMAN. (as a vamp that’s a pretty low opinion – just on the food chain..so to speak) She really never has been human, but she is fragile like a human…I think having the BB only emphasized that aspect of Sookie for Eric. (mistake on his part) I think it was exhausting for Eric to hear her fears and worrying if he could save her all the time.

    As far as finding out — Well we don’t know how old Mr.C is, but he did greet Dermot (700+yo) as youngster when he said hello in Sookie’s kitchen. Mr.C has been pretty able to keep the knowledge of his telepathy from other Supernaturals –Up until now. (Maybe that’s why he’s being chased – now) Perhaps eventually it would become known that Eric was given telepathy, but I think he would be able to keep it to himself for quite a while, perhaps beyond the natural human life that Sookie is being given according to CH.

    Also Eric would have time to have a powerful group of loyal vamps around him — he already has the nucleus of that from his group at Fangtasia. What a whoop-ass little Thalia, Indira, Heidi, bill, and Maxwell not to mention Pam have turned out to be. (Make em all sheriff’s in his kingdom) One thing about Eric is that he inspires loyalty — really looks after his people, doesn’t pull shit like Victor.

    I can’t think of any reason for Sookie to use the CD on Pam, her Miriam is dead. If Eric has freedom, it will mean all the vamps under his rule will have more as well. Much better than the way vampire society is set up now –

    I think Sookie really does love Eric, understands how looking after her, Eric’s own ass has been hanging over the line with the rest of the vampire’s that want her. I see Eric as lined up to be dead asap – with the vampire kings & queens.
    Oklahoma wants SOOKIE. Felipe wants SOOKIE. Eric is in the way….that’s one dead Eric, Victor was just the beginning.
    If Sookie gave him supe-telepathy at least Eric would be able to read which direction and who it’s coming from.

    I see the Cluviel Dor as a love gift. Not to make Eric love Sookie but something she gives him that would ensure his life and freedom, now and even in the future after Sookie’s life is over….

    Sookie is unselfish — I could see her doing that.

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  • Luddie

    Wait, what? I’m sorry to say this but that is incredibly offensive. Because a person doesn’t live in a city area they are “trash?” Sookie’s family are clearly not degenerates, so, we are to assume they are garbage why? What if a person who wasn’t pale lived in the area? what would they be called, just “trash?”

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    Luddie Reply:

    Sorry, that was rude of me and I didn’t even quote the reply. I was reading through the entire page at once and that one quote suddenly struck me incredulous. :p

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  • s.v.s.

    i had to wait 2 weeks to get this by mail here in egypt, and i was so afraid to start reading it because then i would have to wait another year for the next one, this was def one of my favorite books in the series, and we can all see the CH is answering a lot of unanswered questions, but putting bigger issues into perspective, after reading all the comments i just think:
    - sookie oggling D & C is due to her fairy nature, and the fact that after getting all hot and bothered for her cousins and not for bill while they were both naked makes a statement

    - I actually have a new appreciation for Bill in this book, im sure he knew judith was out there, and im sure sookie knew too, he used her as a method to get rid of judith just like he did with selah at the wedding, not putting into consideration how that would later affect sookie, I liked how he called her on her BS behavior after the big fight, i think she needed to hear it. i cannot wait to know about his human, i think it will explain a lot..

    -sookie’s moral conflict in this book is at it’s peak, she knows that it’s not so black and white anymore, and i agree with the opinion that something will happen to push her over and make the fierce aspect of her character prevail, she planned for victor’s murder and made all the others do it, i think she is just as manipulative as the vamps, she wanted to get rid of victor without getting her hand’s dirty, that is why by the end of the fight she was so upset, or whatever mood she was in, sookie has been in bloodier fights and killed in many of the books before but she has never had such a reaction, that is why she welcomed eric’s bite, and wanted it to hurt, as a type of masochistic punishment, she is steadily accepting the change she is going through

    -the CD will not be used to erase her from the minds of supes, or to change anything in the past that would be erasing all the 11 books we have been reading, it would erase all the character development, and that is the core of these books, besides sookie could never live like a normal human, she fits in with the supes, something she never had with humans

    -Sam will never be the HEA, he is too dull and not sincere enough, he knows more than he tells, and he does not put sookie as high up as she does him, if sam is good at anything it is self preservation and putting himself above all, there is and always will be a huge void in their relationship, i think sam will die in one of the next two books

    -the E/S relationship dynamic in this book was so good, not too much but loads of undercurrents, the aftermath of breaking the blood bond was interesting, i expected eric to react much differently, he himself felt assured, and relieved, i like it how sookie is becoming an equal to eric, she is just as mean and bada** as he is, and it will be her turn to protect him in the next 2 books, if she knows anything about eric, it is that he does not like answering to anyone, and that is the issue with QOK, and sookie is fierce and loyal, even if eric did not want her she would do this for him. but they have lots to work through, and eric and sookie are both lacking in the communication department, they do not know how to be in a functional relationship.

    -im so pissed off with amelia, amelia is rash but not stupid, i think she knew exactly what she was doing

    i have so much on my mind i cannot stop thinking, i have so many questions, about Mr.C , niall and eric’s relationship, th CD, dermot and claude, the elf at hooligans, the consequences of victor’s death, the plot behind hunter……………..aiaiai!!

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  • FemmeScorpio

    Ok, yesterday it clicked as to why I didn’t like the porch boink scene. It reminded me too much of that scene with her & Bill after she fought Debbie. Yeah, doing it fast & furious is good, but it just seemed out of place and not the right type (especially since an icepack was needed afterward) with all they were going through.

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    Hootiecat1 Reply:

    FemmeScorpio…

    Are you getting Dead Reckoning and True Blood mixed up???
    ITA with you I hated that scene with bill/Sookie having that animal sex after the Debbie fight, but that was True Blood. I also hated the bloody shower scene…

    The sex on the porch swing made me think that Sookie was desperate to feel more from Eric on a physical level — because she no longer had the emotional connection of the blood bond that made her sex with Eric more satisfying. So physically both Sookie and Eric were reaching beyond the blood bond and found what they needed — without it.

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  • FemmeScorpio

    no, not getting them mixed up at all. it’s just that it seems that true blood inspired that scene in the book. even if it didn’t i still did not like that particular boinkfest.

    i too did not like the true blood shower scene and feel that ANY shower scene with eric & sookie on the show is totally not needed.

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  • SOORIC

    I hope Eric&Sookie won’t break-up :(

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  • AlexNr1fan

    Hi I agree with all the posts about Sookie being an hypocrite and doubting Eric all the time, come on! She would give more credit to the milk man than to Eric, it’s just not fair, that she isn’t able to acknowledge all the things he’s done for her! And their lack of communication also pisses me off, omg I found myself screaming at CH for having them interrupted like, all the time!! and why the he’ll they didn’t even hug or kissed each-other more in this book? I can understand that there is not always good timing for…say “an entire night of primal sex” but what about a hug or a kiss now and then? I have to reread to remember exactly but there was a scene when she was longing for him, she said she wanted to hear him say he loved her and be comforted by him and then they finally met and none of that happened!! Why? I don’t find it realistic enough because in real life relationships people that really love each other don’t talk like strangers regardless of whatever tensions may be, was it just CH laziness in describing this details about him kissing her, because I remember that he kissed her sometimes even when they were not a couple in the first books and after DTTW also sometimes before they became official and now that they are married they just had sex once in the whole book and the rest of the time not even a kiss? I don’t get it, you do perceive his love for her through his words though but her love not so much, she never really gives herself to him, maybe only during the sex scene but that’s not fulfilling enough for me. I think CH should invest more writing in describing their interactions in detail and not so much in how she mops the floor or refills pitchers of beers at merllott’s. That’s my major complaint in this book,apart from the sex they made after the breaking of the BB there was nothing, they would not see each other nor she would think about him for days and that’s normal? Not in my book

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  • Indira

    I have felt throughout the series that Sookie is sort of commitment phobic.She has a tough time acknowledging the fact that Eric and she are pledged (though I admit that it is a little sudden). She is probably not ready for a full time relationship – marriage. Heck! She doesnt even want to move in with Eric or expect him to move in with her. A little strenuous high-class make out and they are on their own ways. They just dont have time to sit and talk for hours, cuddle and look at the fire silently and thoughtful. Where is the companionship, for Goodness sake? None of them are compromising even an inch, and she can be a little tiresome often. And she is having something of an ego clash with Eric. QOO may steal Eric away and she will sit sucking her left thumb and being dumb. H*** if my husband was in such a fix, I would have been out with a stake and some garlic juice and a silver chain for QOO without having the leisure of being tired and miserable.

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  • Purp

    (In first, sorry for my english i’m french )

    I really have a feeling that sookie will end up with Sam (i’m almost certain about that) , in this book i had the feeling that CH try to get rid of Eric and destroy the relationship between Sookie and Eric … :(
    It makes me sad, i don’t understand why CH created a such relationship between eric and sookie ; which evolve since the first book ; for destroy and end this relationship like that , it’s cruel to fans …
    Sam is an unexciting character , nobody want a relationship between Sookie and him , and yet i’m really sure that he will the HEA of Sookie, it’s incomprehensible …

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